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Old 10-19-2014, 11:44 AM
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Good luck getting pickier if they want to grow.
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Old 10-19-2014, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
Expect them to get pickier. They will focus more on people who have cargo experience and like the flying, and less on people who have no experience beyond an RJ, who want to come here get a rating and head to a legacy as soon as they get a call.

They aren't desperate for customers and will tailor the operation as needed.
The issue isn't the type of experience. It's the cost of training someone who knows this isn't domestic style, 3 on 4 off flying. They see no value in dumping $100 grand into training someone who has no real long term intent of staying. As to growth...they'll manage it and opt for people who understand the type of flying and like it.
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Old 10-19-2014, 06:01 PM
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100 G's to go through training per person? We must have had different ground schools. Did you live in a suite for 2 months?
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Old 10-19-2014, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat
The issue isn't the type of experience. It's the cost of training someone who knows this isn't domestic style, 3 on 4 off flying. They see no value in dumping $100 grand into training someone who has no real long term intent of staying. As to growth...they'll manage it and opt for people who understand the type of flying and like it.
There were guys in recent new hire classes who actually told Denise B in the interview they had apps in with United, Delta, and American. They still were hired at Atlas… They don't care, man. 100k for training?!?!? yeah, and I bet they pay $3000 for a toilet seat, $10,000 for a hammer too.
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Old 10-19-2014, 07:33 PM
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C5,
you are not taking into account the full scope of training cost...not just the FNG, not just the time in the simulator.
How about hotels, per diem, that instructor that sits with you in the electronic trainer, how about that instructor that is exclusively yours during OE...all that is the cost of training.
I do see your point, but I think that going forward they may start relying more on mil guys, older former ACMI guys, vs the 30-year old RJ driver that does have apps out (whether he admits it to DB or not).
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:04 AM
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And a lot will opt for the airlines for the better QOL,and the ACMIs will be the furlough refuge, the 3 to 5 year stop along the way for a lot of guys and girls, I loved it, if only the schedule was more familia friendly.
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 727C47
And a lot will opt for the airlines for the better QOL,and the ACMIs will be the furlough refuge, the 3 to 5 year stop along the way for a lot of guys and girls, I loved it, if only the schedule was more familia friendly.
Pay, retirement too... I LOVE Atlas, but you could financially justify making the jump as an FO if you're going to work at a major for longer than 3 years.

We'll see what happens. I'd be very happy working at Atlas for the rest of my life because I love the job, but if someone's offering more money to do an easier job with more time at home then I'll take it.
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:16 AM
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Has anybody heard when the next round of interviews are expected?
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:09 AM
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Latest word seems to be sometime in January.
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Old 10-22-2014, 04:48 AM
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Just my 2 cents, but if the stories of classes until next summer are true, they will have to have interviews during November, and December...and classes in both those months.
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