Atlas Air Hiring
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While I see the humor and sarcasm in your post, just think of it this way. The 10-15% of folks that make the long trips longer are a needed entity. They serve to keep the spotlight from ever falling on the rest of the seniority list. And there are specific advantages to be had when one is out of the spotlight of notoriety.
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From: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
While I see the humor and sarcasm in your post, just think of it this way. The 10-15% of folks that make the long trips longer are a needed entity. They serve to keep the spotlight from ever falling on the rest of the seniority list. And there are specific advantages to be had when one is out of the spotlight of notoriety.
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Fwiw, based on your posts here I would not want to fly with you. No offense meant, but I suggest you think about it a bit. If you treat others the way you do on this forum (which I know isn't always the case) than I should suggest you may continue having difficulty getting a job.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Fortunately I don't drink and fly, just drink and post. It's not entitlement, I certainly do not feel entitled to anything, I've been doing this long enough to know that isn't how it works. I'm self-aware enough to know that it's just plain old, regular style jealousy.
Should I be jealous? Probably not. But I am. I've applied off and on to Atlas for over four years, love the style of flying, know it, not a huge desire to bail in the first year like so many do, and I have a pretty decent resume. I'm not dumb enough to answer interview questions like some of the previously mentioned imbeciles, and I've worked many an 18 hour day with guys to be followed with great times at adult beverage distributors. So yes, I'm jealous. Especially since some of these pilots will bail and say they didn't know their schedule would change so much, they can't sleep, etc. As far as humility, well, if you've seen some of my landings, humility is the only thing I've got going!
But I digress. If we ever get the chance to fly together, beers on me. I'm not as complete a tool as I play on TV.
I'm an absolute gem to fly with. Really. Seriously though.
Fortunately I don't drink and fly, just drink and post. It's not entitlement, I certainly do not feel entitled to anything, I've been doing this long enough to know that isn't how it works. I'm self-aware enough to know that it's just plain old, regular style jealousy.
Should I be jealous? Probably not. But I am. I've applied off and on to Atlas for over four years, love the style of flying, know it, not a huge desire to bail in the first year like so many do, and I have a pretty decent resume. I'm not dumb enough to answer interview questions like some of the previously mentioned imbeciles, and I've worked many an 18 hour day with guys to be followed with great times at adult beverage distributors. So yes, I'm jealous. Especially since some of these pilots will bail and say they didn't know their schedule would change so much, they can't sleep, etc. As far as humility, well, if you've seen some of my landings, humility is the only thing I've got going!
But I digress. If we ever get the chance to fly together, beers on me. I'm not as complete a tool as I play on TV.
Fortunately I don't drink and fly, just drink and post. It's not entitlement, I certainly do not feel entitled to anything, I've been doing this long enough to know that isn't how it works. I'm self-aware enough to know that it's just plain old, regular style jealousy.
Should I be jealous? Probably not. But I am. I've applied off and on to Atlas for over four years, love the style of flying, know it, not a huge desire to bail in the first year like so many do, and I have a pretty decent resume. I'm not dumb enough to answer interview questions like some of the previously mentioned imbeciles, and I've worked many an 18 hour day with guys to be followed with great times at adult beverage distributors. So yes, I'm jealous. Especially since some of these pilots will bail and say they didn't know their schedule would change so much, they can't sleep, etc. As far as humility, well, if you've seen some of my landings, humility is the only thing I've got going!
But I digress. If we ever get the chance to fly together, beers on me. I'm not as complete a tool as I play on TV.
It's okay to be jealous. I'm jealous of all my colleagues who have gone to Delta, American, United, etc. But I'm also very happy for them.
If you know someone at Atlas, an LOR is the quickest way in. Otherwise keep your head up because it's unlikely you won't get an email at some point. It just might take a while.
P.S. New hires never buy the beers
I'm an absolute gem to fly with. Really. Seriously though.
Fortunately I don't drink and fly, just drink and post. It's not entitlement, I certainly do not feel entitled to anything, I've been doing this long enough to know that isn't how it works. I'm self-aware enough to know that it's just plain old, regular style jealousy.
Should I be jealous? Probably not. But I am. I've applied off and on to Atlas for over four years, love the style of flying, know it, not a huge desire to bail in the first year like so many do, and I have a pretty decent resume. I'm not dumb enough to answer interview questions like some of the previously mentioned imbeciles, and I've worked many an 18 hour day with guys to be followed with great times at adult beverage distributors. So yes, I'm jealous. Especially since some of these pilots will bail and say they didn't know their schedule would change so much, they can't sleep, etc. As far as humility, well, if you've seen some of my landings, humility is the only thing I've got going!
But I digress. If we ever get the chance to fly together, beers on me. I'm not as complete a tool as I play on TV.
Fortunately I don't drink and fly, just drink and post. It's not entitlement, I certainly do not feel entitled to anything, I've been doing this long enough to know that isn't how it works. I'm self-aware enough to know that it's just plain old, regular style jealousy.
Should I be jealous? Probably not. But I am. I've applied off and on to Atlas for over four years, love the style of flying, know it, not a huge desire to bail in the first year like so many do, and I have a pretty decent resume. I'm not dumb enough to answer interview questions like some of the previously mentioned imbeciles, and I've worked many an 18 hour day with guys to be followed with great times at adult beverage distributors. So yes, I'm jealous. Especially since some of these pilots will bail and say they didn't know their schedule would change so much, they can't sleep, etc. As far as humility, well, if you've seen some of my landings, humility is the only thing I've got going!
But I digress. If we ever get the chance to fly together, beers on me. I'm not as complete a tool as I play on TV.
Maybe I'm biased but regional FO's are pretty capable and competent to preform this job. We're not flying the Space Shuttle.-Jr.
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I enjoy reading this tread from time to time and although off topic, could someone rough out how many years it would take to make $100k annually from hire? I know little of the airline world and do understand the hourly pay calculators out there but don't understand airline extra cost like union dues or pluses like per diem. Thank!
I enjoy reading this tread from time to time and although off topic, could someone rough out how many years it would take to make $100k annually from hire? I know little of the airline world and do understand the hourly pay calculators out there but don't understand airline extra cost like union dues or pluses like per diem. Thank!
Gets Weekends Off
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Seriously Jr., move on from that post. Potato chip posted it, ate crow, apologized and now we're getting back on topic. Let's move on... And yes, I agree, regional FO's are competent.
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