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Old 10-20-2015 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sandstorm
If you're an FO making over $200K per year here, then you have no life outside this job. You'd have to credit 110 hours per month for 12 months to come even close if you're at the top of the pay scale.
$149.33 / hour x 110 hours
= $16,426.30 / month x 12 months
= $197,115.60 / year
..... and that is pre-tax.
That's true if you're junior; you have to do allot of whoring and have no life to clear that amount of cash. On the other hand, senior FO's that live in base make 200k all day long with plenty of time at home; or, was the case when I was a Houston based FO and drove to and from work. I was clearing 90-100 hours a month and only spending 9 or so days away from the house.

With that being said, for 90% of the FO's on the seniority list, you are entirely correct.
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Old 10-20-2015 | 09:56 AM
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This may be another dumb question and sorry for off the off topic, but how do those hours actually start and end and what are some reasons for not living "in base". Seems like a much better qol if you could live in Huntsville or Cincinnati which are nice areas.
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Old 10-20-2015 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sandstorm
If you're an FO making over $200K per year here, then you have no life outside this job. You'd have to credit 110 hours per month for 12 months to come even close if you're at the top of the pay scale.
$149.33 / hour x 110 hours
= $16,426.30 / month x 12 months
= $197,115.60 / year
..... and that is pre-tax.
I totally disagree. 110 hours in a month is almost the equivalent of working 20 days. Just based on duty rig if you work your normal 17 days and volunteer just 3 days, you will be at 109 hours of pay.

By my standards 20 days a month would be a bit excessive but a far cry from "no life outside this job" as you suggest.

We have pilots here who get paid in excess of 200 hours of pay a month. Now those are people who have no life outside this job - not picking on these people, cause they may have very good reasons.
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Old 10-20-2015 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Joebootx
This may be another dumb question and sorry for off the off topic, but how do those hours actually start and end and what are some reasons for not living "in base". Seems like a much better qol if you could live in Huntsville or Cincinnati which are nice areas.
The pay clock starts when you report in base and runs until you return. If you live elsewhere and choose to use Gateway travel, you would have to come in on your day off and get legal rest prior to operating, which is unpaid, same as a commuter at the majors. Some waive Gateway and drive in or jump seat in (CVG, for example, on one of the many inbound freighters). In those cases, you get to decide when you leave and how best to manage your own rest.

I live where I live because I want to, and my house has outlasted many crew bases and flying jobs. One guy I know lived in CVG for many years. Decided to move closer to family when a new west coast base opened. But then, suddenly decided to move to Maui because, why not? Atlas buys him a ticket, and he never has to worry about getting a seat to work. Might cost him a little more of his personal time, but on the other hand, his family is enjoying living in paradise.

One advantage is you can move anywhere in the US, as often as you like, and the company still has to get you to your base. The only consideration for you is potential time lost (Florida to ANC is not fun) and paying imputed income on the tickets. I spent 9 years commuting to a regional. Lots of flaws in our current gig, but never having to sweat getting to work is a huge relief.

But, as you say, living in base has undeniable advantages.
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Old 10-20-2015 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
The pay clock starts when you report in base and runs until you return. If you live elsewhere and choose to use Gateway travel, you would have to come in on your day off and get legal rest prior to operating, which is unpaid, same as a commuter at the majors. Some waive Gateway and drive in or jump seat in (CVG, for example, on one of the many inbound freighters). In those cases, you get to decide when you leave and how best to manage your own rest.

I live where I live because I want to, and my house has outlasted many crew bases and flying jobs. One guy I know lived in CVG for many years. Decided to move closer to family when a new west coast base opened. But then, suddenly decided to move to Maui because, why not? Atlas buys him a ticket, and he never has to worry about getting a seat to work. Might cost him a little more of his personal time, but on the other hand, his family is enjoying living in paradise.

One advantage is you can move anywhere in the US, as often as you like, and the company still has to get you to your base. The only consideration for you is potential time lost (Florida to ANC is not fun) and paying imputed income on the tickets. I spent 9 years commuting to a regional. Lots of flaws in our current gig, but never having to sweat getting to work is a huge relief.

But, as you say, living in base has undeniable advantages.
You still work here?!
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Old 10-21-2015 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
You still work here?!
Ouch...good one NightIP
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Old 10-21-2015 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Upntheair27
Has anyone heard or got calls for November interviews?
Took the test and passed phone screening few weeks back. Unable Oct. Was told to expect a call to interview late Nov / early Dec. Dates had not been determined yet. Also heard Purchase site was more likely than MIA.
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Old 10-21-2015 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
You still work here?!
Now they pay me to stay home, apparently. That's a compliment, right?
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Old 10-21-2015 | 05:36 AM
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Hi guy`s it's my first post.
I`m former Airline and Netjets USA guy currently living in Europe.
Is there a possibility to live in Europe and work for Atlas.
Thanks
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Old 10-21-2015 | 07:46 PM
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Are interviews still taking place?

How competitive would 3ktt, 500TPIC (E175), 4 yr degree, prior enlisted military, and 2 LOR's be?
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