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Old 02-02-2016 | 01:02 PM
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Soooo, just a thought, but all these guys that cant get a word back from Atlas. Whats to stop them from applying to Southern, getting hired, and eventually/hopefully being put on the Atlas seniority list IF some sort of merger happened...
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Old 02-02-2016 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2xAGM114
I've seen reference to "Business Casual" for training in this thread. Does the company define what that means? Polo shirt ok? 5.11s?

Also, are there CBTs or something to do prior to arriving?

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I just started class yesterday. Most people where slacks of some sort of button up shirts. Some guys wear polos and no one has said a thing. I would do that during any type of check ride day though.

And you will get access to a bunch of material before class. I started all the HR type stuff to get it out of the way but you can start the initial systems stuff to. If you so desire that is. Don't have to.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2xAGM114
I've seen reference to "Business Casual" for training in this thread. Does the company define what that means? Polo shirt ok? 5.11s?

Also, are there CBTs or something to do prior to arriving?

Gracias!
Bring a dress shirt and tie for your oral and type ride. That's something they don't tell you.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Treehorn
Bring a dress shirt and tie for your oral and type ride. That's something they don't tell you.
Seriously? Is that a whale thing? On the 767, there is no such presumptuousness. I didn't even bring a tie to class, wore polos or button up shirts throughout, INCLUDING the check ride. Not only did no one say anything, I think the opposite is true, they WOULD HAVE said something if I was the only guy in class to show up with a tie!
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Old 02-03-2016 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Treehorn
Bring a dress shirt and tie for your oral and type ride. That's something they don't tell you.
Don't play into this. We need to stop this pompous crap, wearing a tie to sim is nothing more than asz kissing and obviously does nothing improve your performance.

Atlas is not the 89th, not the military and we DO NOT fly missions.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
Don't play into this. We need to stop this pompous crap, wearing a tie to sim is nothing more than asz kissing and obviously does nothing improve your performance.

Atlas is not the 89th, not the military and we DO NOT fly missions.
What did you wear for your job interview(s)? Why did you wear it? So it's not the military... I never wore a shirt and tie while flying in the military, yet in the 121 world...

Two ways of looking at professionalism, I guess. I certainly don't see it as "pompous crap".
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Old 02-03-2016 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
Don't play into this. We need to stop this pompous crap, wearing a tie to sim is nothing more than asz kissing and obviously does nothing improve your performance.

Atlas is not the 89th, not the military and we DO NOT fly missions.
You know how it is as a newhire. You're bombarded with the "cooperate. graduate." mantra from day one. You can't cooperate and rock the fashion boat at the same time. Until the check airman stop feeling the need to set themselves apart and above the rest in the schoolhouse by dressing like pharmaceutical sales reps.. until they decide to dress normally, the newhires will continue reciprocating "to show respect".

And,yes, the 767 training is better than the whale department in all facets.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Treehorn
You know how it is as a newhire. You're bombarded with the "cooperate. graduate." mantra from day one. You can't cooperate and rock the fashion boat at the same time. Until the check airman stop feeling the need to set themselves apart and above the rest in the schoolhouse by dressing like pharmaceutical sales reps.. until they decide to dress normally, the newhires will continue reciprocating "to show respect".

And,yes, the 767 training is better than the whale department in all facets.
Correct. I agree, a NH has no business standing ground on this, sorry that I implied that. Cooperate and graduate.

This old school culture is about self promotion and checking instead of training. The definition of training is often lost in the MIA TC, especially on the 74 side in lieu of checking. In my prior life, as a check airman I always viewed the checkride as an evaluation of the instructor and a final opportunity for the student to learn.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 07:05 AM
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[QUOTE=WTFover;2061809]Seriously? Is that a whale thing? On the 767, there is no such presumptuousness. I didn't even bring a tie to class, wore polos or button up shirts throughout, INCLUDING the check ride. Not only did no one say anything, I think the opposite is true, they WOULD HAVE said something if I was the only guy in class to show up with a tie![/QUOTE
What's wrong with looking nice- on a very important day. Look good, feel good, perform well. No different than NFL players showing up on game day in a suit and tie. To each is their own.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 07:21 AM
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[/QUOTE]What's wrong with looking nice- on a very important day. Look good, feel good, perform well. No different than NFL players showing up on game day in a suit and tie. To each is their own.[/QUOTE]

I don't think Cam shows up in a suit and Tie.

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