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Old 11-05-2021 | 10:38 AM
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Can you earn significantly more than guarantee at Atlas?
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Old 11-05-2021 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320
Can you earn significantly more than guarantee at Atlas?
On the 747 yes you can, easily.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320
How full are Atlas classes these days and is Guarantee still capped at 65 hours?
Not very full.

10/11 74 class had 22, and 73 class had 2

74 class that j started 11/1 had 13 originally and down to 9 so far. 25+ are the sizes they're looking for. You have a min guarantee of 64 a month but that's after completion of COE or 120 days and 120 days is what will come first. $1,600 a month pre tax for training pay and plan on that for 4 months....

Most lines on the 74 are more than min guarantee.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320
Can you earn significantly more than guarantee at Atlas?
17 day months will credit you somewhere between 70-80 hours typically. Maybe the long haul 747/777 trips will credit more because block is so high but I wouldn’t count on it. I’m on 767 so not totally familiar.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by heavymetal101
Not very full.

10/11 74 class had 22, and 73 class had 2

74 class that j started 11/1 had 13 originally and down to 9 so far. 25+ are the sizes they're looking for. You have a min guarantee of 64 a month but that's after completion of COE or 120 days and 120 days is what will come first. $1,600 a month pre tax for training pay and plan on that for 4 months....

Most lines on the 74 are more than min guarantee.
And 24/7 per diem for the first 3-ish months. Depending on how much time home you have after Miami, your effective training pay is 3500-4000/month.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Setspeed
17 day months will credit you somewhere between 70-80 hours typically. Maybe the long haul 747/777 trips will credit more because block is so high but I wouldn’t count on it. I’m on 767 so not totally familiar.
couple questions…

Are 767 classes running? What are the 76 trip lengths (assuming anywhere from 5-17)?? I’ve read a little about R2 at hotels.. on the 76 what length are those usually? I heard PDX is one of the R2 spots with 3hr callout, so interested in that as an option for a west coaster.

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Old 11-05-2021 | 11:38 AM
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Thanks guys, very much appreciated. $3500 - 4K is not too bad for training, I genuinly thought it was just the $1600. I’m betting with those current class sizes in the next 3 months they will be really struggling to get more than 5-10 max per class and getting worse.

what’s the training like as in how many sims and are there FMS trainers, Flat panel trainers etc before going into sim and will they give you stuff to study before you arrive like flows, profiles etc?
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Old 11-05-2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TyWebb
couple questions…

Are 767 classes running? What are the 76 trip lengths (assuming anywhere from 5-17)?? I’ve read a little about R2 at hotels.. on the 76 what length are those usually? I heard PDX is one of the R2 spots with 3hr callout, so interested in that as an option for a west coaster.

thanks
The next 2 767 classes listed are 11/16 and 12/6. Pretty much every 3 weeks. Trip lengths are as you know… 5-17 days. *Usually* something like a 7 day trip and a 10 day (or more that flows into the next month, like 15, but no more than 17) with days off in between.

Reserve length stretches are the same as flying length stretches. R2 is 90 min (minimum) to show ,whereas R3 is 90 min to block out. R2 does 12 hour duties followed by 12 hours rest. If you live local and can make it within 90 min on R2 by all means do it at home.

PDX is currently a location we do reserve but so was BWI and that’s gone. And so was SCK but that’s gone. It changes all the time.
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Old 11-05-2021 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Egg320
Thanks guys, very much appreciated. $3500 - 4K is not too bad for training, I genuinly thought it was just the $1600. I’m betting with those current class sizes in the next 3 months they will be really struggling to get more than 5-10 max per class and getting worse.

what’s the training like as in how many sims and are there FMS trainers, Flat panel trainers etc before going into sim and will they give you stuff to study before you arrive like flows, profiles etc?

Keep in mind you won't see your first per diem check until the end of the second month you are in training. Long training program with variable levels of organization. Plan to be here for at least 90 days. Lots of 1 day on, 3 days off, or 1 day on 6 days off or 1 on 1 off. After INDOC and a week of what they called general systems operations, they have SIT training for 5 sessions, Fixed Base for 6 sessions and then 10 full motion sessions including checkride. Then 8 sessions that have been taking 3-4 weeks to complete of mixed class and sim post checkride for differences etc.That is the footprint for the 747 at least.

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Old 11-05-2021 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Egg320

what’s the training like as in how many sims and are there FMS trainers, Flat panel trainers etc before going into sim and will they give you stuff to study before you arrive like flows, profiles etc?
767 had 6 FPT sessions, followed by 8 sims, 9th being your type ride. You get systems videos to watch before showing up, which I highly recommend having done before getting to indoc, but no flows or procedures. I wouldn’t worry about them at that point.
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