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Old 04-29-2014 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bigsuitcase
I sent in that PDF and resumé recently. Plenty of jet time and international time. Are they still hiring or even looking at applicants now? What's it like working there? Never worked for a cargo airline.
Since you tuned in on page #834, I guess I'll add that it IS worth trying to get thru the meat of this thread from the beginning if you can. Look for the handy guides that guys have posted.

For me this place is like a local radio station in St Louis (The Arch)..."It's aaallll about the variety."

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...Could do without the sarcasm and forum-nazi mentality though. Oh well.
My kids tell me that too. Well, not anymore, they are also sarcastic. Seriously, the job is great with great people. There is a lot of good perspective throughout the posts here, all sarcasm aside. Good luck.

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Old 04-29-2014 | 06:39 PM
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I also have been applying for a while at Atlas. It's my 1st choice for career move. In thr meantime, I have been able to upgrade to Captain at my regional, get some pic time, and also get to know 3 Atlas pilots who asked me to put their name on the application. One day, hopefully I'll get the call... In the meantime, I'll keep harrassing the Atlas guys deadheading on my RJ lol.
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Old 04-30-2014 | 06:23 AM
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I very much agree. I read about the last 200 pages before my interview over 3 years ago. It helped, but not nearly as much doing an interview prep. The condescending tone is getting old. READ THE 14,987 pages you wuss!!! haha
The search function works well and saves a lot of time.
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Old 04-30-2014 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bigsuitcase
Some of us have better things to do than read 800 pages of a thread.

The info is appreciated. Could do without the sarcasm and forum-nazi mentality though. Oh well.
Aside from what you'll find if you take the time, Atlas is looking for some things that aren't spoken; like:

"Is this person someone who can get along with others on an extended trip?" And, "Is this a person who is going to be part of a team asked to do different things...or are they the type who say 'it's not my job,' doesn't want to do the digging and wants it handed to them?"

Some people may not care for 744's message. Truth is, he's one of the best guys out there and very willing to help. The underlying message to his posts is that Atlas isn't a domestic 3 on, 4 off. You're going to be on the road and miss birthdays, anniversaries, weddings...funerals and more. If people can't deal with that, they shouldn't apply. And if they're looking at Atlas as a cheap way to get a free type rating and move on...my guess is that door may be closing sooner than many folks think.
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Old 04-30-2014 | 02:47 PM
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Part of the reason we suggest you read the entire thread (or 50 pages, or the Cliff notes, or whatever) is that you need to hear some things we do 50 different ways for it to sink in. Even after a couple of years on line, some things ingrained at other carriers prove hard to accept here.

- you get paid 62 hours a month, 50 the first year. You should never expect to make more (although you often will). Were you awarded a 90-hour line? Great! Doesn't mean a thing until the month is over and you look back to see what you actually did. Trips can and will change all the time, and line balancing can and does occur. On the plus side, if you only make guarantee, you're only working 13 days a month, so there's that, but the company makes the choice, not you. Many of us want trip or bid pay protection in the next contract, but that's down the road.

- seniority doesn't mean much here. It's good for bidding your monthly work footprint and vacation and (finally!) training events, but that's about it. even the #1 pilot on the list can have his line blown up for operational necessity. That said, the DHL stuff tends to go as scheduled, but other flying not so much. Reserves aren't called out in seniority order, either. Seems the 767 reserve guys who live in CVG get called out first while JFK guys who sit CVG reserve are left to rot in the hotel, waiting for something to do.

- vacancies/base swaps are announced after the fact, not before. your standing bid is captured on the 15th of every month. If any changes are needed, the results are announced at the end of the month. Only new bases/new equipment positions are publicized ahead of time.

- although a trip trade module is in the works, there's really no way to alter your awarded schedule unless you request personal leave or call in sick.

Things like that. It really is like flying for several different airlines. I flew the 767-200s for the first time in more than a year, and it's been forever since i've done an ocean crossing, ETOPS/CPDLC or been to Europe, but that could change tomorrow.
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Old 04-30-2014 | 03:53 PM
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Well I postponed my fapa.aero Career Fair slot to the Chicago one in September. I called fapa.aero today and asked if Atlas was attending and they said no.

Keep updating the resume
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Old 04-30-2014 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Part of the reason we suggest you read the entire thread (or 50 pages, or the Cliff notes, or whatever) is that you need to hear some things we do 50 different ways for it to sink in. Even after a couple of years on line, some things ingrained at other carriers prove hard to accept here.

- you get paid 62 hours a month, 50 the first year. You should never expect to make more (although you often will). Were you awarded a 90-hour line? Great! Doesn't mean a thing until the month is over and you look back to see what you actually did. Trips can and will change all the time, and line balancing can and does occur. On the plus side, if you only make guarantee, you're only working 13 days a month, so there's that, but the company makes the choice, not you. Many of us want trip or bid pay protection in the next contract, but that's down the road.

- seniority doesn't mean much here. It's good for bidding your monthly work footprint and vacation and (finally!) training events, but that's about it. even the #1 pilot on the list can have his line blown up for operational necessity. That said, the DHL stuff tends to go as scheduled, but other flying not so much. Reserves aren't called out in seniority order, either. Seems the 767 reserve guys who live in CVG get called out first while JFK guys who sit CVG reserve are left to rot in the hotel, waiting for something to do.

- vacancies/base swaps are announced after the fact, not before. your standing bid is captured on the 15th of every month. If any changes are needed, the results are announced at the end of the month. Only new bases/new equipment positions are publicized ahead of time.

- although a trip trade module is in the works, there's really no way to alter your awarded schedule unless you request personal leave or call in sick.

Things like that. It really is like flying for several different airlines. I flew the 767-200s for the first time in more than a year, and it's been forever since i've done an ocean crossing, ETOPS/CPDLC or been to Europe, but that could change tomorrow.
CaptainV; 744; Talon; Cliff; ATC; Worldfr8dog; and those not acknowledged...a heart-felt thanks for all that you continue to do to make this thread informative, vibrant and interesting.

Taking the time to post comments when you don't have to speaks volumes of your selfless character(s). I am longing for the day(s) when I get to share the cockpit with you guys and end my career knowing that I was truly exposed to the best! Please don't be discouraged by those who marginalize your contributions for this thread is truly an invaluable resource!!! And as a token of thanks, please take the time to check out this video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz4NcTnQedo
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Old 04-30-2014 | 07:12 PM
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Nice video! Man, if only a real airport could work that smoothly.
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Old 05-01-2014 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Part of the reason we suggest you read the entire thread (or 50 pages, or the Cliff notes, or whatever) is that you need to hear some things we do 50 different ways for it to sink in. Even after a couple of years on line, some things ingrained at other carriers prove hard to accept here.

- you get paid 62 hours a month, 50 the first year. You should never expect to make more (although you often will). Were you awarded a 90-hour line? Great! Doesn't mean a thing until the month is over and you look back to see what you actually did. Trips can and will change all the time, and line balancing can and does occur. On the plus side, if you only make guarantee, you're only working 13 days a month, so there's that, but the company makes the choice, not you. Many of us want trip or bid pay protection in the next contract, but that's down the road.

- seniority doesn't mean much here. It's good for bidding your monthly work footprint and vacation and (finally!) training events, but that's about it. even the #1 pilot on the list can have his line blown up for operational necessity. That said, the DHL stuff tends to go as scheduled, but other flying not so much. Reserves aren't called out in seniority order, either. Seems the 767 reserve guys who live in CVG get called out first while JFK guys who sit CVG reserve are left to rot in the hotel, waiting for something to do.

- vacancies/base swaps are announced after the fact, not before. your standing bid is captured on the 15th of every month. If any changes are needed, the results are announced at the end of the month. Only new bases/new equipment positions are publicized ahead of time.

- although a trip trade module is in the works, there's really no way to alter your awarded schedule unless you request personal leave or call in sick.

Things like that. It really is like flying for several different airlines. I flew the 767-200s for the first time in more than a year, and it's been forever since i've done an ocean crossing, ETOPS/CPDLC or been to Europe, but that could change tomorrow.
Good summary. Good times. Great people.


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Old 05-01-2014 | 06:58 AM
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Atlas Air Worldwide Announces Placement of Two Boeing 747-8 Freighters In ACMI Service for DHL Express
Aircraft Will Provide Additional Revenue Cargo Volume for DHL’s Transpacific Network Growth
Business Wire Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. 4 hours ago
PURCHASE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--

Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. (AAWW) today announced the placement of two Boeing 747-8 Freighters into ACMI service for DHL Express, the world’s leading international express shipping company.

The two aircraft will be operated by Atlas Air, Inc. in Polar Air Cargo Worldwide’s transpacific express network under an ACMI arrangement for the benefit of DHL Express and Polar’s other customers. The aircraft replace two Boeing 747-400 Freighters currently in ACMI service for DHL.

The state-of-the-art 747-8Fs will provide additional revenue cargo volume to serve DHL’s expanding express business. The 747-400Fs will be placed immediately into revenue service for Atlas Air.

“We are delighted to deepen our long-standing relationship with DHL and to support the strong growth of its transpacific network operations,” said William J. Flynn, President and Chief Executive Officer, Atlas Air Worldwide.

Commencement of the new ACMI service for DHL is scheduled to begin shortly. At that time, Atlas will operate a total of four 747-8Fs and five 747-400Fs in ACMI service on behalf of DHL. Atlas will also continue to operate seven Boeing 767 Freighters in CMI service for DHL.

About Atlas Air Worldwide:

Atlas Air Worldwide is the parent company of Atlas Air, Inc. (Atlas) and Titan Aviation Leasing (Titan), and is the majority shareholder of Polar Air Cargo Worldwide, Inc. (Polar). Atlas Air Worldwide also maintains a 49% interest in Global Supply Systems Limited (GSS). Through Atlas and Polar, Atlas Air Worldwide operates the world’s largest fleet of Boeing 747 freighter aircraft.

Atlas, Titan and Polar offer a range of outsourced aircraft and aviation operating services that include ACMI service – in which customers receive an aircraft, crew, maintenance and insurance on a long-term basis; CMI service, for customers that provide their own aircraft; express network and scheduled air cargo service; military cargo and passenger charters; commercial cargo and passenger charters; and dry leasing of aircraft and engines.

Atlas Air Worldwide’s press releases, SEC filings and other information can be accessed through the Company’s home page, Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings.


Contact:
Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc.
Media:
Bonnie Rodney, 914-701-8580
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Investors:
Dan Loh, 914-701-8200
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlas-...103300615.html
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