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Old 04-26-2014 | 01:53 PM
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I see a lot of questions on here that are relevant to currently employed Atlas pilots. How many asking these questions here ever bother to post them on our union website?
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Old 04-26-2014 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ElyFly
Guys, I have over 500 hrs on the B742, my total time is around 1900 hrs, you think I should apply now? Or wait till I get the 2000 hrs?
Apply now. I don't know about Atlas, but many airlines count "how long have they had an application in?" as part of their point system.
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Old 04-27-2014 | 05:36 AM
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Military guys/gals, Regional pilots, Legacy pilots, and cargo pilots all bring different experiences to an airline/flight deck. It is important to put egos aside and just do the job. I know that is difficult when we are all applying for the same job but these airlines hire a whole person concept. If we aren't getting hired maybe it is for a reason. With that said, I disagree with what CtYank66 had to say.
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Old 04-27-2014 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ElyFly View Post
Guys, I have over 500 hrs on the B742, my total time is around 1900 hrs, you think I should apply now? Or wait till I get the 2000 hrs?
How did you get hired flying a 747 at only 1200 hrs?

Plenty of us with 10,000hrs and hurting to get out of a regional jet.
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Old 04-27-2014 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CtYank66
Gee,
B.H.FR8 D.

let's see, I think I'd rather have a 5 yrs, 3,000 hrs. EMB or CL pilot who spent his/her career flying out of DEN, ORD, or LGA,
than a RMA career B-52, C 135, P-3 etc. with 3,000 hrs, 300 to/land. and a butt load of powerpoint lectures sitting in the right seat!
What an idiot! Military aviators bring a lot to the table. There is a reason the military can make an Aircraft Commander/PIC in less time than in the civilian airline can. It's the training. Granted they don't have butt load of hours or a lot of experience operating at busy airports but the amount of emergency training they go thru is a lot and is second to none! They fly around the world with little to no help.

All pilots being something to the table. IMHO Airlines are better today with a mix of past experiences.
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Old 04-27-2014 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by brn2fly1
What an idiot! Military aviators bring a lot to the table. There is a reason the military can make an Aircraft Commander/PIC in less time than in the civilian airline can. It's the training. Granted they don't have butt load of hours or a lot of experience operating at busy airports but the amount of emergency training they go thru is a lot and is second to none! They fly around the world with little to no help.

All pilots being something to the table. IMHO Airlines are better today with a mix of past experiences.
When it comes to this flying, the military guys don't bring more to the table than anyone else here. I know they would like to think they would.... But it's not the case. If you are a "civie" and have a good attitude, APPLY! I would love to fly with you. Some of the best I've seen here are the guys from the regionals (no I'm not a regional guy).
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Old 04-27-2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brn2fly1
What an idiot! Military aviators bring a lot to the table. There is a reason the military can make an Aircraft Commander/PIC in less time than in the civilian airline can. It's the training. Granted they don't have butt load of hours or a lot of experience operating at busy airports but the amount of emergency training they go thru is a lot and is second to none! They fly around the world with little to no help.

All pilots being something to the table. IMHO Airlines are better today with a mix of past experiences.
I agree... But let's leave the 1 hour briefings back on base!
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Old 04-27-2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin
I agree... But let's leave the 1 hour briefings back on base!
Absolutely!
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Old 04-27-2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CtYank66
Gee,
B.H.FR8 D.

let's see, I think I'd rather have a 5 yrs, 3,000 hrs. EMB or CL pilot who spent his/her career flying out of DEN, ORD, or LGA,
than a RMA career B-52, C 135, P-3 etc. with 3,000 hrs, 300 to/land. and a butt load of powerpoint lectures sitting in the right seat!
What an idiot! Military aviators bring a lot to the table. There is a reason the military can make an Aircraft Commander/PIC in less time than in the civilian airline can. It's the training. Granted they don't have butt load of hours or a lot of experience operating at busy airports but the amount of emergency training they go thru is a lot and is second to none! They fly around the world with little to no help.

All pilots being something to the table. IMHO Airlines are better today with a mix of past experiences.
These guys fly around the world in the left seat as PIC of a heavy with as little as 1000 hours total time. The training is what makes that possible. I grew up mil and civilian so I appreciate both sides.
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Old 04-27-2014 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Xing30west
When it comes to this flying, the military guys don't bring more to the table than anyone else here. I know they would like to think they would.... But it's not the case. If you are a "civie" and have a good attitude, APPLY! I would love to fly with you. Some of the best I've seen here are the guys from the regionals (no I'm not a regional guy).
I never said they bring more, I said they bring a lot. One of the best pilots I've flown with was a Great Lakes B-1900 Captain before coming to my airline. I've watched him manage the cockpit and use energy management better than most. At my airline some of the pilot I respect most have never touch the controls of a military aircraft. The grew up flying freight and regionals.


And let's leave the 2~3 briefs and debriefs at the door
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