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Old 07-24-2014 | 03:38 PM
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Globemaster, she made mention of trying to fill a few more slots for this class on the 11th. During the interview they made it seem they really need pilots. I am also hearing different from a few of my former flying buddies who are already at Atlas. I am looking forward to it. Last 6 years was similar flying and loved it.
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Old 07-24-2014 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Holdnorth
Globemaster, she made mention of trying to fill a few more slots for this class on the 11th. During the interview they made it seem they really need pilots. I am also hearing different from a few of my former flying buddies who are already at Atlas. I am looking forward to it. Last 6 years was similar flying and loved it.
They clearly do need more pilots. We're all getting a ton of open time emails every day. If they use us in that manner they have to pay us extra. Many of us feel that there should be a ton of movement for those of us at the bottom in the next year.
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Old 07-24-2014 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
They clearly do need more pilots. We're all getting a ton of open time emails every day. If they use us in that manner they have to pay us extra. Many of us feel that there should be a ton of movement for those of us at the bottom in the next year.

I'm personally wondering how they intend to staff the 767 this fall, considering that roughly 30 FOs will come unlocked, and there were only 7 767 new-hires on the latest vacancy bid. Rumors abound of more jets, too.

Oh well, I just work here.
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Old 07-24-2014 | 06:24 PM
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I'm personally wondering how they intend to staff the 767 this fall, considering that roughly 30 FOs will come unlocked, and there were only 7 767 new-hires on the latest vacancy bid. Rumors abound of more jets, too.

Oh well, I just work here.
1 747 FO now costs them 2 types... 1 767 FO moves to the 747 and a new hire goes to the 767. Management knows the 767 will now be the junior airplane. As for expansion... They've gotta be able to out train attrition which they've been unable to do so far this year. We've hired between 60-70 (counting the class that just started) and the pilot group is smaller than January 1st...
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Old 07-24-2014 | 06:24 PM
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As long as the 747 staffing remains at current levels (and actually with the number that are leaving), it would mean they will continue to hire into the 747. That will require Atlas to let the 767 FOs go to the 747, and hire into the 767.
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Old 07-24-2014 | 06:25 PM
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Most of my 'friends' had Atlas interviews recently and have future interviews with the Big 3 within the next month. I suspect several guys will start training with Atlas and leave for another Company while still in Miami. Wonder how that will make Atlas management feel... For example, Delta is going crazy right now with hiring. Which young guy will pass on Delta for 'great wide body flying' at Atlas? (plus leave 1.5M+ on the table by age 65) You guys really think our next contract will be much better? My last 'cold breakfast only' experience proves otherwise.
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Old 07-24-2014 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BadRobot
Most of my 'friends' had Atlas interviews recently and have future interviews with the Big 3 within the next month. I suspect several guys will start training with Atlas and leave for another Company while still in Miami. Wonder how that will make Atlas management feel... For example, Delta is going crazy right now with hiring. Which young guy will pass on Delta for 'great wide body flying' at Atlas? (plus leave 1.5M+ on the table by age 65) You guys really think our next contract will be much better? My last 'cold breakfast only' experience proves otherwise.
This has allegedly been happening all year. The type bumps your resume up and you get a call shortly there after. In the next contract management will possibly want a clause where you pay them back for the type if you don't stay long enough, but I say we hold out on that unless we get an industry standard contract.

Also, I'm betting the 10% difference between what Atlas contributes and what a major contributes is worth much more than $1.5 million for a 25-30 year old. I bet it's worth more than that to a 40 year old when you factor in that you make more at a major...
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Old 07-25-2014 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BadRobot
Most of my 'friends' had Atlas interviews recently and have future interviews with the Big 3 within the next month. I suspect several guys will start training with Atlas and leave for another Company while still in Miami. Wonder how that will make Atlas management feel... For example, Delta is going crazy right now with hiring. Which young guy will pass on Delta for 'great wide body flying' at Atlas? (plus leave 1.5M+ on the table by age 65) You guys really think our next contract will be much better? My last 'cold breakfast only' experience proves otherwise.
Your assessment of the job market is likely true...but I am not as willing as you to accept that our next CBA negotiations will be a pointless exercise...sorry, but that is a defeatist outlook that I refuse to accept.
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Old 07-25-2014 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
In the next contract management will possibly want a clause where you pay them back for the type if you don't stay long enough, but I say we hold out on that unless we get an industry standard contract.
I don't think so. Do other "industry standard" airline contracts have training contracts in them? Not that I'm aware of. If you have a good contract, people will want to stay and you won't need it.
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Old 07-25-2014 | 06:26 PM
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Just got an email saying atlas is very busy. Travel dept said it has been crazy this past month.

Having a training contract or not has nothing to do with the contract.When hiring is difficult,u will not have a training contract, as it makes it harder to get new pilots.

Two Chinese airlines just started hiring expat FOs...for the first time ever.
Emirates held a pilot hiring roadshow in Singapore...and ZERO pilots showed up.
HR has its work cut out for them.
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