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Old 02-09-2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Welcome back home Bob. I guess I'll have to bring my golf clubs up if I get to stay in status.

Shaggy,

Just so you know, I and some others who are not in the bottom 200 have DC8 FE over ANC. So if it gets to me, I will be a plumber vice ANC.
We need more guys like you out there!
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Old 02-09-2009 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaggy1970
You got it wrong, After the displacement takes place the most junior will be in the most junior seat, DC-8 FE! The company has it right!
Yeah, I was being sarcastic... the reason SDF is "fat" right now is only 2 DC-8 CPTs and half the DC-8 FOs bid vacancies. The rest are waiting for displacment rights. So, after the dominos fall, the bottom guys will all end up on the panel.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 11:44 AM
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Who knows, a couple more announcements like this one, and they'll have to run yet another bid :-)

UPS to Deliver For L.L.Bean
ATLANTA, Feb. 9, 2009 - UPS (NYSE:UPS) has been selected as the primary package delivery carrier for L.L.Bean, the 97-year-old outdoor apparel and equipment company.

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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ERJ Jay
Who knows, a couple more announcements like this one, and they'll have to run yet another bid :-)

UPS to Deliver For L.L.Bean
ATLANTA, Feb. 9, 2009 - UPS (NYSE:UPS) has been selected as the primary package delivery carrier for L.L.Bean, the 97-year-old outdoor apparel and equipment company.

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Nice to see optimism on here for a change...from a poolie no less. The sooner you get on board the better my friend.

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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by b2pilot186
Nice to see optimism on here for a change...from a poolie no less. The sooner you get on board the better my friend.

B2P
Amen my brother!
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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
Just so you know, I and some others who are not in the bottom 200 have DC8 FE over ANC. So if it gets to me, I will be a plumber vice ANC.
If you're senior to me thank you.
If not, good job anyway.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 12:54 PM
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Exactly! There is still a lot of shuffling to happen. The final bid is going to be quite different from this one. I still personally feel that we won't furlough, but it'll be close. The next 3-6 months will be telling.
Remember in Top Gun when Iceman is dogfighting and the radar operator on the ship realizes that there are more Migs than orginally anticipated? The skipper calls to launch Mav and is told that the catapult is broken and that it will take 5 minutes to fix. The skipper responds that the whole thing will be over in 2 minutes and to get it fixed now.

That's kind of how this furlogh sitution is. A friend of mine in Atlanta keeps telling me that they are baffled by their metrics right now. Loads are down, especially from Asia, but we are kicking the crap out of FDX when it comes to picking up DHL's business. Our cheapest competitor just quit domestic ops last week and we are gaining a lot of new customers such as LL Bean. When this economy turns we'll be making money hand over fist--Atl thinks it could be 30% more than when DHL was operating. They look for Big Brown to pick up some assets over this summer. We won't furlough, but if we do it will happen sooner not later. We would be hiring right now if not for the NDs.
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Old 02-09-2009 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
Remember in Top Gun when Iceman is dogfighting and the radar operator on the ship realizes that there are more Migs than orginally anticipated? The skipper calls to launch Mav and is told that the catapult is broken and that it will take 5 minutes to fix. The skipper responds that the whole thing will be over in 2 minutes and to get it fixed now.

That's kind of how this furlogh sitution is. A friend of mine in Atlanta keeps telling me that they are baffled by their metrics right now. Loads are down, especially from Asia, but we are kicking the crap out of FDX when it comes to picking up DHL's business. Our cheapest competitor just quit domestic ops last week and we are gaining a lot of new customers such as LL Bean. When this economy turns we'll be making money hand over fist--Atl thinks it could be 30% more than when DHL was operating. They look for Big Brown to pick up some assets over this summer. We won't furlough, but if we do it will happen sooner not later. We would be hiring right now if not for the NDs.

L'il J,

Interesting factoids from your contact in ATL. I don't think that anyone can deny that with this current realignment/displacement bid, the company would be in a position to furlough a small amount without a major disruption to service. However, these bids had to happen with the pulldown of the -8. So, junior guys would have gotten bumped to the panel, with a byproduct being stafffing positioning for a furlough if it was to happen. I'm still with you - I don't think a furlough will happen.

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Old 02-10-2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
... That's kind of how this furlogh sitution is. A friend of mine in Atlanta keeps telling me that they are baffled by their metrics right now. Loads are down, especially from Asia, but we are kicking the crap out of FDX when it comes to picking up DHL's business...
I agree there probably won’t be a furlough however when it comes to us “…kicking the crap out of FDX when it comes to picking up DHL's business…” I hear something opposite. Supposedly FDX is actually getting twice as many former DHL customers as we do.

My source is a former DHL supervisor who heard it from his former coworkers. He said UPS hired many DHL sales people but so did FDX. Also, according to him those who got hired at FDX were given permanent new positions there while those hired by Big Brown were given temporary (several years) assignments and 'might' be offered extensions later on. I’d imagine getting a permanent position would make someone more inclined to give it a 100%

Not sure how accurate his info is but since he was a mid-level manager at DHL I figured there must be some truth to it...

Either way, it's a net gain for both FDX and UPS...
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Old 02-11-2009 | 04:02 AM
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When the dog & pony show paraded through ANC late last year, I think the breakdown was approx 38% of former DHL customers to UPS, and 32% to FedEx ... the rest elsewhere ... USPS, pony express, etc

Hardly an a$$-wooping by either if you ask me.



Why would they lie, besides being management ...





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