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06-02-2006, 08:29 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
FoxHunter you are like a broken record, and yes I am old enough to know what a broken record is. Maybe you should have got some more of your wiser friends to vote when the poll was taken. They probably all sat on their *ss and did nothing just like they did on the ANC LOA vote.
The issue is not going away. There is nothing in the change that will force anyone to go past age 60 if they choose. The question is about the option of going past age 60. Looks like most know it will happen, just don't want it until they are close. I've been told by the UAL people that five pilots are forced into retirement each day, most with little retirement. The UAL guys say they will be getting 20% of what was expected. I guess the official ALPA position it is fine to s-rew a large portion of its members. How about we give all the 727 flying to a feeder operator in return for better pension and pay rates for the rest of us. Why would anyone want to fly the 727 in any case.
06-02-2006, 01:47 PM
#33
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: MD-11/10 Captain
Posts: 533
Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Just like all those pushing for the change. The issue is not going away. There is nothing in the change that will force anyone to go past age 60 if they choose. The question is about the option of going past age 60. Looks like most know it will happen, just don't want it until they are close. I've been told by the UAL people that five pilots are forced into retirement each day, most with little retirement. The UAL guys say they will be getting 20% of what was expected. I guess the official ALPA position it is fine to s-rew a large portion of its members. How about we give all the 727 flying to a feeder operator in return for better pension and pay rates for the rest of us. Why would anyone want to fly the 727 in any case.
The issue is not going away. There is nothing in the change that will force anyone to go past age 60 if they choose. The question is about the option of going past age 60. Looks like most know it will happen, just don't want it until they are close. I've been told by the UAL people that five pilots are forced into retirement each day, most with little retirement. The UAL guys say they will be getting 20% of what was expected. I guess the official ALPA position it is fine to s-rew a large portion of its members. How about we give all the 727 flying to a feeder operator in return for better pension and pay rates for the rest of us. Why would anyone want to fly the 727 in any case.Just what part of "voted on" don't you understand? I'd send you to Bob or Larry to figure it out but they apparently don't understand that concept either.
06-02-2006, 05:39 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Gosh, I could have sworn that the whole age 60 thing was voted on by the union wide membership. Oh, that's right! It was.
Just what part of "voted on" don't you understand? I'd send you to Bob or Larry to figure it out but they apparently don't understand that concept either.
Just what part of "voted on" don't you understand? I'd send you to Bob or Larry to figure it out but they apparently don't understand that concept either.
06-03-2006, 08:56 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
No, it was not actually voted on. There was a poll. I'm told it was scientific because after they had 18,000 responses the poll takers decided they were not getting a proper response so they canceled the responses of 6000 and made targeted calls to a certain demographic group to obtain their scientific sample, result.
I love conspiracy theorists. A diabolical scheme under every rock. Especially if it advances YOUR agenda.
06-03-2006, 09:58 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by Ranger
And, naturally, you're in a position to know that this is fact. Did Bob tell you that? Are you one of those people who think that it wasn't a B-757 that hit the ground at the Pentagon on 9/11?
I love conspiracy theorists. A diabolical scheme under every rock. Especially if it advances YOUR agenda.
I love conspiracy theorists. A diabolical scheme under every rock. Especially if it advances YOUR agenda.
This UAL pilot also asked the FAA Administrator about the rule change at the Sun & Fun airshow back in April of this year. She made some interesting comments. You can download them at www.video.google.com, and then Search "age 60".
06-03-2006, 05:14 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
His source was the individual that runs the Wilson Center, ran the poll.
I think your reported source for this load of garbage speaks for itself.
06-04-2006, 06:38 AM
#38
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Joined APC: Feb 2005
Position: Retired UPS 767 Captain, SDF Z
Posts: 431
Contract language
Originally Posted by Fedex999999
If you're gonna do the dirty deed (fly extra) then stand up and admit it. If you aren't admiting it (hiding your calendar, etc) THEN YOU MUST KNOW IT IS WRONG.
Sometimes the loudest (HOUK) pro union cheerleaders are frequently found on the list. Once a ***** (someone who sells themselves for $), always a *****.
We have the same group of people over on this side of the fence too.
06-04-2006, 10:35 AM
#40
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: MD11 CRA
Posts: 684
First SFS, now ANC..
When will MEM get onboard? Saw an 11 Capt last week on draft to fly an ANC trip, got a guy from MEM reserve to fly an ANC trip, and now there is an ANC Hotel Standby starting the 6th for MEM 11 open time. Any MEM pilot that takes that trip does not get it. I hope anyone who knows him helps him understand by explaining why they didn't take that trip. I won't pick it up make up, make up sick, as a VLT or a DFT or even trade for it. Not while we get stiff armed at the negotiating table while FedEx makes record profits and not until we have a contract. Let's see which MEM pilot undermines the resolve of the ANC crew force by flying it.....
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