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08-03-2009 | 12:18 AM

#251

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captjns

My stomach turned too when I read the thead. UPSMISTAKE is wasting his butt in a seat to which someone who really needs a job. On the flip side, I hope UPSM is married to a wife that is able to support him in a manner he hopes to become accustomed to. But then again, I'm sure his whining on the homefront is exponentially greater than what we have read in this forum. She'll probably dump the soon to be idler him sooner or later.

I see your point here and if you read my previous posts on this thread you know my take on his 'problem.'
Having said that, I think you're a little too harsh on him when it comes to his family life. He does have the right to express his disappointment and I think it's up to him and his wife to deal with their marriage... Went through a recent divorce myself so maybe I'm a little oversensitive on this issue but at least that's my $1 (or €0.0001

) on the subject.

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Originally Posted by captjns

Anyway, there a few Chinese operators looking for DEC current and qualified 744 captains. I hope your friend does not throw in the towel, and takes a shot at China. May not be a generous as JAL, but it's a job, and hopefully he can keep the house.

He's applied to every job I can think of. They're open to moving to China, Korea, etc... He's hoping for a HAL interview but so are thousands of others...

Last edited by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE; 08-03-2009 at 12:41 AM.

08-03-2009 | 03:44 AM

#252

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Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Went through a recent divorce myself so maybe I'm a little oversensitive on this issue but at least that's my $1 (or €0.0001

) on the subject.

Been there done that some 25 years ago. In the 30 years I've been flying, I've learned that there is greater opportunity for marriage and divorce than a good flying job

08-03-2009 | 05:12 AM

#253

DYNASTY HVY

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From: whale wrangler

Beating the odds !

Quote:

Originally Posted by captjns

Been there done that some 25 years ago. In the 30 years I've been flying, I've learned that there is greater opportunity for marriage and divorce than a good flying job

I must be doing something correct because I have both a good marriage and a good flying job

.

Fred

08-03-2009 | 06:15 AM

#254

767pilot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

- not furloughed but laid off -(

the difference is?

08-03-2009 | 06:23 AM

#255

Slice

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Originally Posted by 767pilot

the difference is?

Recall rights...they're done.

08-03-2009 | 09:30 AM

#256

Night Eagle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brown snowman

Life here is good for me,
but I was in a
penal colony before this
gig.

Based in SFO

SDF is a Redneck Reservation

08-03-2009 | 11:17 PM

#257

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

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Originally Posted by 767pilot

the difference is?

A furloughed pilot has (hopefully) a job to come back to... Those guys/gals were told Sayonara for ever... Some of them had been there for 20+ years...

A huge difference...

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08-03-2009 | 11:19 PM

#258

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY

I must be doing something correct because I have both a good marriage and a good flying job

.

Fred

Good luck, keep it that way...

08-04-2009 | 07:06 AM

#259

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brown snowman

Life here is good for me,
but I was in a
penal colony before this
gig.

Yeah, but if you're the Snowman I think you are, it was our little penal colony and everyone knew our name.

08-04-2009 | 03:18 PM

#260

767pilot

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

A furloughed pilot has (hopefully) a job to come back to... Those guys/gals were told Sayonara for ever... Some of them had been there for 20+ years...

A huge difference...

That's called being fired. I don't think that it is defined that you do or don't get definitive recall rights when you look those words up in the dictionary. best I could find was wikipedia for "layoff"

"Layoff is the temporary suspension or permanent termination of employment of an employee or (more commonly) a group of employees for business reasons, such as the decision that certain positions are no longer necessary or a business slow-down or interruption in work. Originally the term "layoff" referred exclusively to a temporary interruption in work, as when factory work cyclically falls off. However, in recent times the term can also refer to the permanent elimination of a position."

Anyway, sorry to hear your friends being shown the door