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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
Please clarify your position. You want it to be mandatory? You want to give concessions? The individual may well not get elected to the board but, he will get votes and he will have a following of people who agree with his position. When he speaks in a formal setting like the forum it has an impact on the people who would be forced to give something up and it will provoke a reaction from them. For it to have been or be more than voluntary it would have had to go to a vote of the membership, given the time constraints when this manifested itself I think a vote in favor would have been tough to get and that the voluntary route was the best way to go.
No concessions. A group vote on the MOU so we all give equally. If it passes fine, if not, let the chips fall where they may. This business of some giving too much(3 yrs at 50% pay) and some not enough(0%) is divisive and b.s.
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:27 PM
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No concessions. A group vote on the MOU so we all give equally. If it passes fine, if not, let the chips fall where they may. This business of some giving too much(3 yrs at 50% pay) and some not enough(0%) is divisive and b.s.
So you want it to be mandatory, which is a concession.
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:29 PM
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I think the point that is trying to made is that unions fail when everyone does not stick together. The IPA EB has been working diligently toward putting information out to the membership about our situation. No conspiracy! 67% participation! It should have been better!

Hopefully it will be when the time comes!

I agree that crossing a picket line is a totally different animal
When the time comes for what?
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
So you want it to be mandatory, which is a concession.
Ok, then by your logic, 2/3's of us have taken concessions. If that's your definition sure. But I don't consider it so if the original CBA is still intact and it is.
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:35 PM
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Ok, then by your logic, 2/3's of us have taken concessions. If that's your definition sure. But I don't consider it so if the original CBA is still intact and it is.
And it would only be 'mandatory' if passed by the majority of the membership... In reality, I don't need to give a dime. I can earn a living in the guard if furloughed. Most don't have that option.
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:48 PM
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And it would only be 'mandatory' if passed by the majority of the membership... In reality, I don't need to give a dime. I can earn a living in the guard if furloughed. Most don't have that option.
I am not going to get laid off and in reality I don't have to give a dime but I did. What and how much was my choice and voluntary ask me to vote to allow someone else to control and dictate what and how much is given, don't like the idea.
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
When the time comes for what?

MOU Signup.
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Old 10-24-2009 | 03:53 PM
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MOU Signup.
thanks for the reply
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Old 10-24-2009 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
Don't be shocked if you don't get VOLUNTEERS if you call people greedy who don't volunteer. I gave and don't consider the ones who didn't greedy.
Well I have another name for someone who doesn't help out other fellow pilots because I called them greedy. I didn't think I am that significant as to have such a profound effect on people. LOL
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Old 10-24-2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
thanks for the reply

You are welcome.
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