So if every pilot on the property quits flying Dps, Then YOU will be willing to wear your pin and lanyard. Just so we understand your stance on the matter.

 

So you understand:

If every pilot on the property quits flying DP's, then WE ALL are showing real UNITY that actually means something, lanyards or not! And we can take that to the negotiating table.

 

I completely agree with you on this point. My point is, until this happens, you are going to take your toy and play with yourself in the corner. Correct?

 

Well, I definitely think you hit on something there. I agree the whole lanyard gig is but a toy in the world of adult negotiations.

 

Cant speak for anyone else but I will wear my lanyard and pledge pin, then sit back and sigh as others fly Dps, fly extra during 4A2b, bid airplanes that dont have a payrate, and vote yes on the next contract regardless of what is in it (some of whom vote yes because they think that is what MNCSFM means).

Of course a short little message from the NC on the effect of flying DPs during contract negotiations along with a cute new pin wouldnt hurt.

 

The point is, that as long as our negotiating committee can keep us worried about wearing lanyards, then we are distracted from the real work, which is, among other matters, keeping pilots from flying DP's. The lanyard argument is a red hearing. We should keep our eye on the ball and not let either side of the table distract us from achieving a good contract. Unity is action, not symbols around our necks. The more we focus on the red hearing argument, the more time we waste addressing the actions that will help achieve a good contract (like keeping our fellow pilots from continually screwing us flying DP’s). It's as if the company is the one promoting the lanyard and pin issue. It takes our minds off of the real issues that promote unity, and that make a real difference at the negotiating table. Almost makes me wonder if the negotiating team is trying to tell us not to expect too much.

 

It seems to me your the one making this a red herring issue as YOU are the one who has a issue with it. Just wear the lanyard and pin and continue to press others to do right by the crew force in DP area. Yes I believe the company is laughing at the fact you have a problem with the lanyard.

 

Roll Tide.

 

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I think rats point is substance over style, actions speak louder than words, etc, etc.

What gets the Companies attention more, wearing a lanyard or not flying DPs or extra? Do they shake in their boots because we wear a lanyard, or because they cant cover trips? Lets get real here.

When the HKG folks were removed from flight status, and before they had their hearings, what would have made a difference; wearing your lanyard or enjoying your time off....ALL OF US?!

When our ex leader declared that we should take into consideration the fact we have no pay rate on the 777 when it comes to bidding it (style), and then bids it along with all the other first round bidders, we lose.

And how about 4a2b? We collectively flunked on that one. Heck, guys I know that fly DPs and fly tons of OT wear a lanyard and pin.

But if no one bid the 777, or flew extra during 4a2b (substance) we win. There are numerous examples of this behavior since I have been working here. It is pretty pathetic. Marty is probably rolling in his grave.

We need to be 100% proactive. Instead, we are reactive, and not very cohesive at that. When the Company puts out their first opener that is garbage, and we all decide to enjoy our time off, they would most likely get the point. But if we all just started wearing our lanyards and continued our usual behavior, they would laugh at our moronic behavior.

I do think that all of us know "the right thing to do". We are just to selfish, greedy, and dont really have a clue. This is business. I am as purple as it gets when it comes to performing my duties and wanting this good company to prosper. And I do know what gets their attention....$$.

Wear your pin and lanyard, but most important is to back up your style with substance.

And for the record, I dont wear a lanyard because it is to elastic and slingshots in my face when it is stretched or gets caught on something! And it broke. But I do wear my 25 year pin, and I dont fly DPs and havent done OT in years.

Because there is no civilian equivalent, I will say Semper Fi my FedEx brethren. Think about how your actions affect the whole group.