HIFLYR

Really a few percent on a few percent???
Originally what I said is true the union really cost us at FedEx nothing as we have a B-fund we would not have if not for the union. We make approx 5% after dues are paid every month since we have the above.
When did we start talking about managers and yes at FedEx they had their heath care and retirement slashed and we did not. Guess why?

I would be willing to bet while you hate the union, you know the contract and its protections better than anybody you fly with. Just like most of our non-members.

MaydayMark

RLB?

Sideshow Bob

Forget it...he's rolling. Stand by for a toddler-like tantrum...Jungle thinks he sooooo clever. And being a moderator, he always is...just ask him.

Overnitefr8

Anyone notice that in the company FY15 1st Qtr Performance update that they conveniently listed salaries, wages, and benefits as the top reasons for an increase of $162 million in operating costs YOY. Coincidence that we are in negotiations?

Yeah, I know, not supposed to open that link.

jungle

So, you don't know the history of the RLA?

What this really means is it goes into mediation eventually, forget the union and pilots, the .gov will decide your fate.

If you were clever you might know this, or you could keep believing in "leverage". Ain't no such thing in this case.

You are at the mercy of .gov for rules and contract settlement, the union is just a business to harvest the money between the start and end of negotiations. Enjoy.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_Labor_Board

TonyC

I tell ya, jungle, you've really fallen off the deep end this time. Are those mushrooms you're snackin' on?

The Railway Labor Board was abolished a long, long time ago, back when the Railway Labor Act was passed establishing the National Mediation Board. According to the link you posted, that happened in 1926. Now, don't tell us you were around back then, and you just haven't broken your habit of calling them the RLB.


Again, you've asserted that the union is makin' hay between the start and end of negotiations. I've tried being diplomatic and asking you to back up your claims, but you haven't, and I'm left with only one conclusion. You're full of it.

ALPA dues do not rise or fall with negotiations, but expenditures climb significantly. Negotiations are not profitable for ALPA. Contracts with significant increases in compensation are profitable to ALPA, because they get a cut of those increases.

Understand? You're makin' yourself look pretty dumb.






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jungle

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, if you can pause long enough to accept that there are other solutions perhaps you can explain why a simple contract update commonly takes two to five years.

It isn't like the entire wheel has to be designed from scratch each time, what is the complication that burns up those years? What is the motive for the delay? Why is this considered acceptable?

Full pull

jungle is a moron. At 5k plus posts, a very lonely moron.

dckozak

Nice, a management plant attempting to undermine union solidarity! "There is no hope...the government won't allow you...., ALPO is the problem, not the solution.... "

Just more dribble by those who are either on the other side or blinded by a misplaced hatred of anything that whiffs of "collective".

tomgoodman

A cynic might suspect that this could be one reason: Even when both sides know approximately where they will end up, they have constituents who do not know this. To satisfy them, each side must open with an extreme position and perform a choreographed dance, slowly and with dragging feet, toward the "center". Clumsy dancers will step on toes and cause a scene. Skillful dancers only appear to step on toes, but the moves are rehearsed.