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Old 08-24-2015 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJ700Master
So this is somewhat true?...How is that allowed? Legally?...This can't be true. If so, I thought my airline treated their pilots like garbage.

I'm bored where I'm at and flying 4 or 5 legs a day with not a peep from any of the majors has caused me to look at airlines like Omni. I have 6000TT with 2500PIC Jet. Would this be competitive? What can I expect in terms of money and time off?. I've seen past posts, but I see a bunch from pilots that don't work at Omni anymore.(Must be a reason). How about from pilots still at Omni.
They take an "if it's not in the contract, don't expect it to happen" policy. Bottom line. It's quite frustrating.

I'm not sure what you're doing now, but I was flying 135 single pilot freight before I came to Omni and I'd never go back to that scary crap. The job is fun if you can roll with the punches... I just flew with a couple guys who absolutely love it (the job, not the company), and a couple that think it's the worst job ever. So read the posts about what it's like to be gone for 18 or more days with Omni and make up your own mind. One thing Omni is not is boring. There's something new every trip.
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Old 08-24-2015 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJ700Master
I just had an Omni Pilot on my Jumpseat...What this guy had to say about working at Omni had to be exaggerated...

This guy said a pilot had a family emergency at home while he was overseas flying and they wouldn't let him go home...he had to find his own way back home from the other side of the planet...No way that could be true!

Can anyone verify this?
One of the two incidents that I know of was one of my FOs. His grandfather passed away and the company would not get him home ASAP. They refused to buy him a ticket. So to get home he had to work 12 hours and dead head on the same plane he just operated to the east coast. 25 hours and he still had to jumpseat from IAD to ATL. The other one I know of (not a 100% sure of all the details) was when a Captain's fiancé or wife (not sure they were married yet) had a stoke. The company refused to buy him a ticket so he shelled out $2500 for a ticket home. They wanted him to wait a day or two and deadhead on a company plane stateside and then jumpseat home.

That pilot was not exaggerating
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Old 08-24-2015 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJ700Master
I just had an Omni Pilot on my Jumpseat...What this guy had to say about working at Omni had to be exaggerated...

This guy said a pilot had a family emergency at home while he was overseas flying and they wouldn't let him go home...he had to find his own way back home from the other side of the planet...No way that could be true!

Can anyone verify this?
Completely true. I've heard of this happening a couple times.

They leave you in places for whatever reasons all the time. Your spouse could be in a medical emergency, your kids in trouble, your parents dead, and you BETTER cover that flight still or your canned.

Well maybe that's an exaggeration, we'll let you burn sick days but you're on your own to get home. Doesn't matter if you're in Nashville, or Kuwait. Good luck.

Not counting things like taking vacation on the TDY and then being left in Spain to find your own way back since that's your "base"...
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Old 08-25-2015 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by KhalReblic23
Completely true. I've heard of this happening a couple times.

They leave you in places for whatever reasons all the time. Your spouse could be in a medical emergency, your kids in trouble, your parents dead, and you BETTER cover that flight still or your canned.

Well maybe that's an exaggeration, we'll let you burn sick days but you're on your own to get home. Doesn't matter if you're in Nashville, or Kuwait. Good luck.

Not counting things like taking vacation on the TDY and then being left in Spain to find your own way back since that's your "base"...
Thanks for the info...I just removed Omni from my list. If a company doesn't care about it's people and turns its back on you when you need them the most...They don't deserve good workers...

Hope the best for all you pilots at Omni...Sounds like you need it with that type of management attitude.
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Old 08-25-2015 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJ700Master
Thanks for the info...I just removed Omni from my list. If a company doesn't care about it's people and turns its back on you when you need them the most...They don't deserve good workers...

Hope the best for all you pilots at Omni...Sounds like you need it with that type of management attitude.
Honestly if you're cranking TPIC in a jet at a 121 carrier, no reason to even consider this place. A real airline will call soon enough.
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Old 08-25-2015 | 05:35 PM
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Omni is not a career position to which aviators aspire, but a destination for those that cannot succeed further in aviation...

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Old 08-25-2015 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gunner
Omni is not a career position to which aviators aspire, but a destination for those that cannot succeed further in aviation...
Disagree. I came here cause I was on my second regional. The regional I was at was going out of business, the writing was on the wall and I didn't want to add a third regional on my resume. OH furloughed me and got called back, got current, and got hired here at Omni. The big O is rough. there are a lot of things about the job that none of us like or even agree with but I will still stand by my pervious post that if you have TPIC and are currently a FO at a regional, yes come to Omni. Especially if you have to commute. Omni is a home base airline, yes the 22 hour DH does suck, I agree. But in over 4 years as even a junior FO, I've had it once. I live on the East Coast and was coming from Japan so the time to get from there to here is time consuming. It sucked. It wasn't nice. But in 4 years that was only time. I know there are crew members that have had it happen several times but out of the 300+ the percentage is small.

One step further. I have zero PIC turbine. I'm one of the few here that do. But like perviously said having 6000 TT and 3000 TPIC might not get you a job. We have several captains here that unfortunately fall in the "you have too much PIC time." I don't agree with that excuse from airlines. But, lets face it, they use it. I think they call it "untrainable." Heck look at UPS they want\require (not in the resume part but they do require it) HEAVY time, either SIC or PIC. So if you're a regional captain wanting a change something like Omni might be the place for you. Maybe not Omni, maybe Atlas, National, or Kalitta. But one of those places could get you over the hump.

I've commuted as a regional pilot and I've lived in base as a regional pilot, Omni isn't that bad. As regional pilots we *****ed about pay, trips, commuting, and seniority. Guess what, no airline is different, we do that at Omni too. It's not the perfect airline but what airline is? If you want to fly heavy planes around the world, be home based, get a pay check twice a month no questions asked, and still ***** about your job; apply to the big O. Maybe you could join us in our fight

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Old 08-26-2015 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gunner
Omni is not a career position to which aviators aspire, but a destination for those that cannot succeed further in aviation...
I also disagree. You don't know what a pilot has gone through until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Lots of guys have been at "career" airlines that went under. Remember TWA? Pan Am? Eastern? Braniff? Continental? Those were all prime career airlines that either through strikes or bankruptcy went south.

Where did those pilots go if no one was hiring? World, North American, Omni, Kalitta...places like that. Then a big hiring wave starts (Today) and those guys are too old or too experienced to get a look from the current Majors.

Your comment is pretty typical of someone who is relatively inexperienced in the airline business and reflects "major airline hubris." The majors aren't the be all and end all for everyone. Lots of people are perfectly happy flying freight, corporate, fractional. Granted the Majors are the golden ring for pay, but there are a whole lot of guys who don't worship at the altar of the almighty buck.
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Old 08-26-2015 | 07:13 AM
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Very well said Blackbox, and Packrat! I've been at Omni 6 years now. Sure I'd like to go elsewhere, but it is what it is until I get a call. Omni has been very good to me, and I'm grateful for them rescuing me from unemployment due to furlough when nobody else was hiring. Some folks have no gratitude for what they do have, and can't take their eyes off of what others don't have.

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Old 08-26-2015 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gunner
Omni is not a career position to which aviators aspire, but a destination for those that cannot succeed further in aviation...
Pretty tough Gunner, I will give you the first part. Lets change the second part to Omni is a place you end up. Lots of good guys here through no fault of their own had a great job and it tanked. Now I do find the Omni supporters that came to the rescue, very amusing. The only good thing that we can say about Omni is the paycheck does not bounce and we are home base (at least for now).
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