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11-06-2016, 01:07 PM
#121
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Position: L188
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A Captain I met, that flys in and out of LGA a lot, said to me, and the attached report confirms, it was moderate rain, a 7 knot tail wind and they landed long. They then tried to go off into the grass instead of right into the arrester bed. Yikes. Lucy, you have sum splainin to do!
As far as AB goes, he has a rather poor track record honestly and has flown, and terminated, by A LOT of carriers.
As far as AB goes, he has a rather poor track record honestly and has flown, and terminated, by A LOT of carriers.
11-06-2016, 04:44 PM
#122
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 555
Originally Posted by Braniff DC8
A Captain I met, that flys in and out of LGA a lot, said to me, and the attached report confirms, it was moderate rain, a 7 knot tail wind and they landed long. They then tried to go off into the grass instead of right into the arrester bed. Yikes. Lucy, you have sum splainin to do!
As far as AB goes, he has a rather poor track record honestly and has flown, and terminated, by A LOT of carriers.
As far as AB goes, he has a rather poor track record honestly and has flown, and terminated, by A LOT of carriers.
why so many commas? I was there that night and it was not that bad.
Personally i just wish all of these 36th st airlines would just vanish.
11-06-2016, 05:52 PM
#123
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I just love commas!
Looks a bit bad to me but I was NOT THERE. LGA should probably have been landing on 4 but the PIC is always responsible as we all know. Diverting to JFK would have been a better idea. LGA is short when it's dry nevermind a wet runway with a tailwind. Again, not sure why they are off the side of the runway but aquaplaning could possibly explain it.
"Ground observers reported it was raining hard at the time of touch down, water was splashing everywhere from the aircraft".
Metars:
KLGA 280126Z 04007KT 2 1/2SM RA BR OVC007 13/12 A3003 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 P0007 T01330122 $
KLGA 280105Z 04008KT 2SM -RA BR BKN009 OVC015 14/12 A3005 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 P0005 T01390122 VISNO R22 SW $
KLGA 280115Z 05008KT 2SM -RA BR FEW005 OVC010 13/12 A3004 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 P0005 T01330122 $
KLGA 280053Z 06011KT 2SM +RA BR SCT007 OVC011 14/12 A3006 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 2 1/2P0003 T01390122 $
KLGA 280051Z 06010KT 3SM +RA BR BKN007 OVC011 14/12 A3006 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP178 P0031 T01390122 $
KLGA 280029Z 03011KT 3SM +RA BR OVC007 13/12 A3007 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 5 P0015 T01330117 $
KLGA 280009Z 09007KT 3SM -RA BR OVC009 13/12 A3009 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 5 P0005 T01330122 $
KLGA 272351Z 10010G15KT 3SM RA BR OVC010 13/12 A3010 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP192 P0032 60061 T01330117 10139 20072 58018 $
KLGA 272251Z 09009KT 3SM RA BKN009 OVC015 13/11 A3014 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP205 P0014 T01330106 $
Looks a bit bad to me but I was NOT THERE. LGA should probably have been landing on 4 but the PIC is always responsible as we all know. Diverting to JFK would have been a better idea. LGA is short when it's dry nevermind a wet runway with a tailwind. Again, not sure why they are off the side of the runway but aquaplaning could possibly explain it.
"Ground observers reported it was raining hard at the time of touch down, water was splashing everywhere from the aircraft".
Metars:
KLGA 280126Z 04007KT 2 1/2SM RA BR OVC007 13/12 A3003 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 P0007 T01330122 $
KLGA 280105Z 04008KT 2SM -RA BR BKN009 OVC015 14/12 A3005 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 P0005 T01390122 VISNO R22 SW $
KLGA 280115Z 05008KT 2SM -RA BR FEW005 OVC010 13/12 A3004 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 3 P0005 T01330122 $
KLGA 280053Z 06011KT 2SM +RA BR SCT007 OVC011 14/12 A3006 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 2 1/2P0003 T01390122 $
KLGA 280051Z 06010KT 3SM +RA BR BKN007 OVC011 14/12 A3006 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP178 P0031 T01390122 $
KLGA 280029Z 03011KT 3SM +RA BR OVC007 13/12 A3007 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 5 P0015 T01330117 $
KLGA 280009Z 09007KT 3SM -RA BR OVC009 13/12 A3009 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 5 P0005 T01330122 $
KLGA 272351Z 10010G15KT 3SM RA BR OVC010 13/12 A3010 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP192 P0032 60061 T01330117 10139 20072 58018 $
KLGA 272251Z 09009KT 3SM RA BKN009 OVC015 13/11 A3014 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP205 P0014 T01330106 $
11-11-2016, 07:14 AM
#126
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Position: B737 Right
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Ok guys here is my $ .02 worth..
During interview we were told flag/dom was on the way and pax would soon follow with x number of planes.
So far flag dom on hold for obvious reasons and planes are trickling in.
Schedules are 3/4 on with 3/4 off. Scheduling department is a joke. They take your days off and reschedule them as they please. You have to complain and stand your ground.
Jumpseating is getting better with more airlines coming.
Pay is being looked at but for now its crappy.
Upgrades are happening if you meet the minimums not necessarily seniority.
Synopsis:
Eastern recently went through a CEO change. Is it going to be a good change? Time will tell. Yesterday Chairman came to talk to employees and the feeling everyone left with is that for now Eastern will be a charter operator and pax service somewhere down the horizon.
As far as how the airline is being run and morale. The morale of employees is dirt bottom. The flight attendants are not happy. They are being abused and preferential treatment is killing the morale.
The management does not like to be compared to a "36 st airline" but the mentality is the same. The scheduling department is being led by a 36 street reject that has been fired from various airlines or removed from position due to his lack of respect for crews and his treatment of others, constantly lies to cover his position. The company continues to hire people from 36 street airlines with history of being fired for incompetency or trouble making. The pilots are fed up with scheduling and their practices. Scheduling rules are in the works but nothing for sure. I see a Union in the future.
There are rumors of a change in CP and training positions. The current CP is a very knowledgeable person with great experience. He is approachable and will listen to your concerns and come to a favorable conclusion. He is being promoted to DO. This is the only positive change.
The new CP is the old director of training. A person with a narcissistic personality. I know people that have worked with this individual in the past and nobody has anything nice to say. I have personally been in a few sessions with him and his attitude is old school full of trickery and not conducive to a training environment. The type of pilot that will throw you under the coals without first getting your side of the story.
So at the end of the day, pilot and fa morale is through the floor. Nobody is willing to help or answer phones until changes are made. Unfortunately not all the changes are good and you just have to give enough rope for these people to hang themselves. On the meantime, the airline is losing good people and will continue to do so. FA's are jumping ship, pilots are jumping to Atlas/Spirit and searching for better opportunities.
Right
During interview we were told flag/dom was on the way and pax would soon follow with x number of planes.
So far flag dom on hold for obvious reasons and planes are trickling in.
Schedules are 3/4 on with 3/4 off. Scheduling department is a joke. They take your days off and reschedule them as they please. You have to complain and stand your ground.
Jumpseating is getting better with more airlines coming.
Pay is being looked at but for now its crappy.
Upgrades are happening if you meet the minimums not necessarily seniority.
Synopsis:
Eastern recently went through a CEO change. Is it going to be a good change? Time will tell. Yesterday Chairman came to talk to employees and the feeling everyone left with is that for now Eastern will be a charter operator and pax service somewhere down the horizon.
As far as how the airline is being run and morale. The morale of employees is dirt bottom. The flight attendants are not happy. They are being abused and preferential treatment is killing the morale.
The management does not like to be compared to a "36 st airline" but the mentality is the same. The scheduling department is being led by a 36 street reject that has been fired from various airlines or removed from position due to his lack of respect for crews and his treatment of others, constantly lies to cover his position. The company continues to hire people from 36 street airlines with history of being fired for incompetency or trouble making. The pilots are fed up with scheduling and their practices. Scheduling rules are in the works but nothing for sure. I see a Union in the future.
There are rumors of a change in CP and training positions. The current CP is a very knowledgeable person with great experience. He is approachable and will listen to your concerns and come to a favorable conclusion. He is being promoted to DO. This is the only positive change.
The new CP is the old director of training. A person with a narcissistic personality. I know people that have worked with this individual in the past and nobody has anything nice to say. I have personally been in a few sessions with him and his attitude is old school full of trickery and not conducive to a training environment. The type of pilot that will throw you under the coals without first getting your side of the story.
So at the end of the day, pilot and fa morale is through the floor. Nobody is willing to help or answer phones until changes are made. Unfortunately not all the changes are good and you just have to give enough rope for these people to hang themselves. On the meantime, the airline is losing good people and will continue to do so. FA's are jumping ship, pilots are jumping to Atlas/Spirit and searching for better opportunities.
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