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Old 03-25-2018, 09:37 PM
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Best of luck to all starting class tomorrow.
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Old 03-27-2018, 05:51 PM
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Does everyone have to work for a Major? Is that a requirement in life?
No, it’s not a requirment in life. The majors provide the most money with the best quality of life of any job flying airplanes in the entire world. That is everyone’s goal, isn’t it? To make the most money while having the best quality of life possible? If that’s not your goal, then a major probably isn’t where you want to be.
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Old 03-27-2018, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
No, it’s not a requirment in life. The majors provide the most money with the best quality of life of any job flying airplanes in the entire world. That is everyone’s goal, isn’t it? To make the most money while having the best quality of life possible? If that’s not your goal, then a major probably isn’t where you want to be.
Guys like you just can't stop assuming that your version of QoL fits everybody the same. Most people know what they want/need/desire from their lives. The guys that want to work for majors know that already. The ones that don't have their reasons, and are also aware of what they want already. So what is it that you hope to achieve by forcing your career outlook and plans on others? You should be glad there's guys who like different flavors, more jobs for ya'll to have at the major of your choice.
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Old 03-28-2018, 01:19 AM
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So what’s the quality of life at Swift then? Without a CBA or contract or Union?
The top 15 that get all the “special” deals? The Blue Falcons that won’t hesitate to call Scheduling and have a fellow captain taken off a trip that they want?
The no-we-don’t-have-homebasing but the top 15 deal-makers miraculously always get an airline ticket to where the trip starts?
Only reason Swift is surviving is because others have even worse management. Or they ran the VP off the runway. That didn’t help either.
If you think Swift is a good airline you need to have your medical revoked.
You’re delusional.
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Old 03-28-2018, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
Guys like you just can't stop assuming that your version of QoL fits everybody the same. Most people know what they want/need/desire from their lives. The guys that want to work for majors know that already. The ones that don't have their reasons, and are also aware of what they want already. So what is it that you hope to achieve by forcing your career outlook and plans on others? You should be glad there's guys who like different flavors, more jobs for ya'll to have at the major of your choice.
I’m not forcing my career on anyone. I would bet most Swift Air captains don’t even realize they are being paid half what a major 737 first officer is being paid. I guess ignorance is bliss. The pay difference is enormous.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
So what’s the quality of life at Swift then? Without a CBA or contract or Union?
The top 15 that get all the “special” deals? The Blue Falcons that won’t hesitate to call Scheduling and have a fellow captain taken off a trip that they want?
The no-we-don’t-have-homebasing but the top 15 deal-makers miraculously always get an airline ticket to where the trip starts?
Only reason Swift is surviving is because others have even worse management. Or they ran the VP off the runway. That didn’t help either.
If you think Swift is a good airline you need to have your medical revoked.
You’re delusional.
It sucks, but most of the pilots have had enough and are ready to fight. There are about 30 pilots that actually are home based, and listed that way. Deals galore here unfortunately. Regarding Hockeypilot's post, we are well aware how bad the pay is here
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
I’m not forcing my career on anyone. I would bet most Swift Air captains don’t even realize they are being paid half what a major 737 first officer is being paid. I guess ignorance is bliss. The pay difference is enormous.
I worked at an ACMI for a long time. We always thought we had it pretty good. I made the move to a major. Leaving the left seat for the right once again thinking it'll take a while to make up the difference in pay, qol, etc.
1st day in class and it was clear how much I wasn't getting at an ACMI. I made up for the pay by 2nd yr. Worked fewer days also.
Work at a major is super easy. Still miss the good crews and places we went in the ACMI world but it sure was a lot of work
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
I worked at an ACMI for a long time. We always thought we had it pretty good. I made the move to a major. Leaving the left seat for the right once again thinking it'll take a while to make up the difference in pay, qol, etc.

1st day in class and it was clear how much I wasn't getting at an ACMI. I made up for the pay by 2nd yr. Worked fewer days also.

Work at a major is super easy. Still miss the good crews and places we went in the ACMI world but it sure was a lot of work


Yep but I’m sure if we could all get a job at southwest and Delta we’d be there! Regional flying was cake compared to charter!
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Old 04-12-2018, 08:59 PM
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Good evening! Any latest and greatest with Swift Air? company projections, upgrade times, base movements, Euro TDY, pay raises? Just curious and asking for a friend.
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Old 04-13-2018, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellafo View Post
Good evening! Any latest and greatest with Swift Air? company projections, upgrade times, base movements, Euro TDY, pay raises? Just curious and asking for a friend.


Upgrade time at this point probably about a year.

Bases as of now IWA STL CLE MIA, future basing SAT and ENV.

European pay 120hr guarantee, almost $90/day per diem, completion bonuses for 3, 4, 5 months ranging from 12-20K. One ticket a month for significant other to come stay.

Classes right now will probably resume about August time frame.

Class of about 22 starting on April 23rd. Xtra pilot coming to Swift I think only about 16 coking over.

First set of upgrades doing their OEs and fed rides next week.

No Pay raises announced yet still as listed on APC.
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