JDfly

Is this thread the best place to exchange gouge for new hires? I just got the CJO yesterday and expect to be in a 31 Oct class! Anything I should do while I wait? Is there a better way to share/get info? It's the one question I wished I had asked...

Whoop

Congratulations! The Onboarding Team should email you a bunch of documents, some of which include study materials. I would ask them directly if you'll be an entirely jet class, as you don't want to study Dash Limitations & Memory Items (if you'll be jet- vice versa). We've heard conflicting information if Dash training is frozen right now. Whatever airplane you train on, they'll get you memory items, limitations & flows to study. Welcome!

ALI G Mmmm

I see with the commuter clause at C5 that as long as you list yourself on two flights to get you there in time you're fine. This is a huge reason why I choose C5 because I'll be commuting from MCO. Can someone go farther in-depth with this and explain it? For example, There is a 09:00 and a 14:00 flight MCO-IAD. So as long as I list myself on both of those am I safe?

Currently going through the ATP-CTP course.

Whoop

Yes, as long as both of those flights get you to base prior to your report time, you are fine. During your first day in New Hire Class, among other paperwork, you'll fill out a form declaring yourself as a commuter.

Excerpts from the contract covering this section are below.

Purpose
This policy is intended to facilitate a commuting pilot’s ability to travel to duty and provide notice to the Company as soon as possible that a trip may require alternate coverage if circumstances prevent the pilot from reporting for duty as scheduled.

General
A pilot who wishes to utilize this commuter policy must register by notifying the Chief Pilot in writing on a form provided by the Company for that purpose. A pilot who has registered is a “commuting pilot.” A commuting pilot is expected to report for duty in a timely manner. The following provisions are not intended to relieve a pilot of that responsibility. A pilot who is unable to report for duty because of delays or cancellations related to unforeseen flight schedule disruptions or the unanticipated lack of non-revenue seats will notify Crew Scheduling as soon as possible and follow the requirements outlined below. If all of the below listed requirements are met, the pilot shall not be subject to any disciplinary action as a result of his inability to report on time nor will such commuting failure(s) be used to assess or support discipline in the future.

Listing for Travel
A pilot commuting to duty must be listed in an airline computer reservation system on flights that the commuting pilot plans to use to travel to duty. A pilot must list a primary flight and a back-up flight for travel that: have adequate seats available within twenty-four (24) hours of departure; have reasonable weather for the route of flight and at the arrival and departure airports; and are scheduled to arrive at the airport where he is assigned to commence his trip before he is scheduled to report for duty. A pilot may use jumpseat privileges for the primary and backup flight on which he is listed. If a pilot does not use a reservation system that is accessible to the Company, then he will provide documentation that he complied with the standards listed in paragraph J.3.a., above.

Travel Procedures
As soon as a commuting pilot becomes aware that he will not be able to report for duty as scheduled because of flight delays, cancellations or non-revenue seat availability, he will contact Crew Scheduling immediately and make every effort to report to the location where he was scheduled to begin his trip. With the mutual agreement of the pilot and Crew Scheduling, the pilot may report to an alternate location to pick up his trip.

Lodging for commuter pilots is addressed in Section 5.A.2 of this Agreement.

Jimbobcooter

And I would keep all your jumpseat passes/ticket printouts till you get to work.

crj700driver

What is the current CCP success rate after getting the interview at United?

FDX8891

Unfortunately nobody knows. There have been requests made by the pilot group to disseminate information like this but unfortunately that information is proprietary to United. My WAG is that 3/10 make it through the entire process.

FDX8891

Thank you for typing out everything I wanted to say, but was entirely too lazy to.

Undaunted

Does your WAG imply that only 30% are successful in the United interview? Or, is a greater percentage than 30% getting through the United interview, but failing some other criteria while at C5?

Eugenelee1987

There are some confusions regarding this but I think 30% passing interviews is quite normal. In mainline United interviews it is nowhere near 100% acceptance rates. In real world companies it would be like 2-3 per 10 applicants for any job. People think original commutair is getting screwed with only 30% passing and all new hires making it but originally only those that passed came to class. So it seemed like they all made it. We wont know unless we have recruiting data. Now that they interview after training itll be more transparent.

Also there is no separate criteria at C5 that fails them out of the CPP yet. There is a FAQ saying abuse of sick/fatigue calls will cause some problems later on if it is excessive. They want you to behave and United will see how you act as an employee before they accept you. Many have made the program that cannot go because of not having a degree or the required hours yet.

Everyone has a chance to reinterview but this is not an exact science. Many dont pass Hogan but that is a mystery to me and even some fail the interview even with interview prep. And many are waiting because they are brand new 121 pilots who dont feel prepared to interview yet. This is from personal experience with people in company and new hires from my class.

If you think of this as a United interview then it is understandable the qualms some have and that most wont make it.


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