Sounds like you won't be the ex-CPZ guy who sticks out the most should you end up at OO...

I do agree with you though on those logical points, though. However, I'm also the guy who asks "are we there yet?" at TOC, so to mitigate that, I fly the planned speed on the flight plan.

 

I'de always rather wait for a gate than play games 'timing' it in the air. IMO it's better customer service, because everyone can use their cell phones and the lav while we wait.. plus it gives us the first opportunity to taxi to the gate or 'changed' gate if something becomes available. Plus then I can chill instead of watching our fuel and weather etc... Chilling is important to me, you can call it a core value

 

Ahhhh brings back memories of 2015-2016 and the south side!!


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If you guys want extra time in your logbooks, pick up another trip or turn.. Don't go flying around slow everytime. Fly 290/.78 like everyone else and if you wait for a gate, try shutting down an engine if you want to save fuel or whatever.. Get in early whenever possible, by as much as possible.. It will give everyone a nice break, maybe the crew can get food, get to the hotel early, help a pax out getting extra time to connect etc etc etc.. Don't slow down to NOT be early.. That's lame. Let's be real, people only do it to try to get an extra 0.1 in the book... Seriously? Don't be petty. Block out on time, fly normally, and get there when you get there.

 

I used to joke that I had 1000 hrs in the plane, but half of that was waiting for a flow time on the way out and a gate on the way in, and half of THAT was PM eating snacks, so basically I had very little flight experience

 

And if u do fly slow, let atc know ur new speed so they dont call you out like they always do with OO


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And that’s where the snack basket committee idea was starting folks!


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Yep let’s fly .78 and land 40 minutes early and sit on the ground for 30 minutes... I fly at whatever speed is appropriate. If we’re late I go .80 and if we’re gonna be super early I’m flying .74 the whole way and still arriving on time or a bit early. This actually burns far less fuel and has a number of benefits as mentioned above. Everyone loves to make fun of OO, especially myself, but let’s look at their financial success vs. ours at CPZ..... I don’t do it to get the extra .1 because I don’t care. As someone else said above “just pick up an extra turn every month” which is what I do. Don’t be that fool who flys fast even when we are way early into LAX and then has to make 5 PAs about an occupied gate.

 

Okay, but at .74 you’re still going to catch up to Skywest

 

I said just pick up an extra turn 😅. Anyway, I don't get places that early flying. 78, and yikes don't work so hard man! - 5 PAs? Tell 'em we got to wait for a gate because we're early, throw an estimate out there, let 'em know you'll take any earlier gate opportunities, privately tell your FAs to let 'em go to the lav... And be done! Chill.. As long as pax know they'll still be on time, no one cares in my experience. But hey, this is why we get to fly with our favorite captains every day... Do it however you want.

Edit: many times I've landed 20 (occasionally 30 minutes when there is no actual flow time) minutes early and we have a gate and the alleys open.. It's really nice getting to my car by the scheduled arrival time.. Everybody's happy when that happens. I rarely have to wait for a gate because we're early.. Usually it's due to congestion in the alley or a delay on the gate.