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Old 10-24-2014, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 View Post
Rumor at the Envoy training center is Compass is losing the 20 175 for Eagle brand. Apparently training managers are getting a program ready ASAP. Any info on the Compass side?
Sounds like the rumors they had at Comair back in the day.
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Old 10-24-2014, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 View Post
Rumor at the Envoy training center is Compass is losing the 20 175 for Eagle brand. Apparently training managers are getting a program ready ASAP. Any info on the Compass side?
Troll much?

Airplanes are already negotiated for, CPA's been signed, tail numbers assigned, manuals made, that's a lot of money AA would be ****ing down the drain...not to mention Envoy having a 175 program up and running with a February aircraft acceptance...I won't hold my breath
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Old 10-24-2014, 05:02 PM
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No, not trolling just asking for confirmation on what is going around. I heard 2 instructors and training manager were pulled today to get the program ready ASAP. And as far as the time to set it up, I've heard from MEC reps the time frame is 90-120 days since the aircraft is a common type with 195, the poi has all but approved slapping an envoy sticker on the aa manual

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Old 10-24-2014, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 View Post
No, not trolling just asking for confirmation on what is going around. I heard 2 instructors and training manager were pulled today to get the program ready ASAP. And as far as the time to set it up, I've heard from MEC reps the time frame is 90-120 days since the aircraft is a common type with 195, the poi has all but approved slapping an envoy sticker on the aa manual
Confirmation that we are receiving 20 airplanes, that's what's going on at CZ, we just had a company email come out two days ago with specific delivery dates and aircraft configs specific to our operation...we have also heard our deliveries are being expedited with an opportunity for more frames if performance is good. I just read your new MEC chair is trying to restart negotiations with AA management, hard to have airplanes coming when there has been no new agreement made? Lots of friends at Envoy, no mention of this or not on any thread on APC. I'de like to see Envoy get some new airplanes though, but every indication and email from the company is that these things are all but on the line with CZ pilots flying them...
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Old 10-25-2014, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn View Post
Thanks. So January to March about 76 upgrades. If between April-September they average 32 upgrades a month, thats 268 upgrades alone. If its closer to 40 between April-Sept thats over 300 upgrades. I just stopped at September as a conservative guess.


Is there no Oct new hire class next week?

I'm in the Nov 13th class. So my seniority# should be 20-30 numbers above that 497. After flows and attrition, my seniority should be between 340-350 seniority, with low estimate attrition. I still don't get how I would miss an upgrade next year, I'd be less than 50% seniority in the company. Still not accounting for bypassing.
Do you mean start of orientation on November 13th or Ground School?
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999 View Post
Rumor at the Envoy training center is Compass is losing the 20 175 for Eagle brand. Apparently training managers are getting a program ready ASAP. Any info on the Compass side?
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by djrogs03 View Post
aircraft configs specific to our operation.
Are they going to have any jumpseats in the back like the Delta birds? I heard they were going back and forth on having one or none.
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Old 10-25-2014, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TOMM View Post
Are they going to have any jumpseats in the back like the Delta birds? I heard they were going back and forth on having one or none.
No extra FA jumpseats is what we were told to expect. Also, nowhere for crews to stow our bags (pilots and FAs) so they MAY have to be put in the cargo. ***? That's what the email said. These will be the cheeeeapest versions. NWA wasn't even this cheap. And they were the epitome of cheap.
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Old 10-25-2014, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskaBound View Post
No extra FA jumpseats is what we were told to expect. Also, nowhere for crews to stow our bags (pilots and FAs) so they MAY have to be put in the cargo. ***? That's what the email said. These will be the cheeeeapest versions. NWA wasn't even this cheap. And they were the epitome of cheap.
Funny, we got a different story.
We were told that there wouldn't be crew bag storage because AA wants to stow their emergency equipment there. So bags would be stored throughout the cabin in overhead bins.
Also, all birds will have printers and possibly 2 extra FA jumpseats on the aa birds.
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Old 10-25-2014, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rama04 View Post
Funny, we got a different story.
We were told that there wouldn't be crew bag storage because AA wants to stow their emergency equipment there. So bags would be stored throughout the cabin in overhead bins.
Also, all birds will have printers and possibly 2 extra FA jumpseats on the aa birds.
Alaska is correct. It directly addresses both things he said.
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