Just curious how far out they are scheduling classes right now and where they are at with hiring numbers. Have an interview next week, I am wondering at this point if the qol/upgrade wave has long since crested? Hypothetically if someone got hired today how would things look moving forward if classes kept being filled?

 

Last thing I heard from HR, is 40 per month till September 1. Then they want to hire another 50 for the rest of the year. Not sure what upgrades are at, but everyone at Compass is pretty young and almost all plan on moving on. With the hiring the Majors are planning on doing I wouldn't think an upgrade would be more than 2 years, but that is just a guess. Faster than most other regionals at least. Good luck!

 

I don't know how far out the classes are right now, but I don't think it's past May. If you get hired, volunteer to take an early class and you may sneak into a March-April class.

150 flow pilots will be removed from the top of the list starting April 1 through November 1, at a pace of 20 a month, which requires 20 line pilots/month added until 150 are added. We need to add 20 line pilots/month starting March 1 for approximately 10 months until we add 200 total for the AA flying. We have probably added 200 out of the 350 required. That number may include those in March.

650 is their end number with non-flying pilots included. We probably are around 650 pilots right now (500 active, rest in training and off line) and need to hire another 150 for the flow and AA growth. You can almost think of it as though we need to grow to 800 to account for the 150 flow pilots leaving. After that, all hiring is for regular attrition, which they are planning on 50/year (probably higher).

To figure out where you will sit, take the current seniority list (650) and add 40/month past March through July and roughly 10/month after that for you to start. Take that number and minus 150 for your November number to account for all the 150 flow pilots departing by November. Divide that by 650 and there is your rough seniority % at the beginning of November. 1-5 non-flow pilots will likely leave monthly, so you can probably account for that too by subtracting 175-200 instead for your November number.

Anyone hired in the next 1-5 months will gain seniority at the behest of the flow pilots leaving and the AA growth. After that, you will gain seniority based on normal attrition, which is increasing. No one hired now can hold captain based on being 50% or higher, but with all those lacking minimums, if you have the minimums, chances are you will hold captain within months of being hired. You will be junior to all those that bypassed once they upgrade though.

 

Good answer

 

We currently have around 640 pilots. If the plan is still to hire 40/mo through august, that's 240 more and then 50 more after that till the end of 2015, they must be planning on either hiring attrition or a pilot group larger than 650.

 

Where do most stay when coming in for the single day orientation? Recommendation?

 

The regular attrition will be higher than TSH plans for. Seems a given with the way they have predicted things. The active list (minus flows) may go as high as 700 to staff the 62 airplanes, but we will have to wait and see for that.

It can't be another 150-200 that need to join the list after March for the flow attrition and AA growth in 2015. It's a safe bet to subtract 40/month for April and each month after (from the 150-200 number) to see if you got on before hiring slows for regular attrition. I wouldn't be surprised to see them need 250 or more for the rest of 2015, but we have to be fairly close to only needing to hire another 150 for the flow attrition and AA growth.

 

Holiday Inn, Country Inn, Microtel. These are in Eagan within a mile or 2 of PanAm..or you can priceline it

 

how long is self study?

 

It's now 14 days. It was 30 days.