No government has adopted your views and no health official that knows what they’re talking about is advocating going the herd immunity route. As it would cause too many deaths with this virus. That’s not me saying that’s what the professionals that know more about this than you do have said.

They shut down the country to get the R number lower than 1 and are trying to get you to follow the health guidelines. That’s the best way for this to be over in a reasonable time.

 

What about if we all wore hazmat suits when we went out? .....or some other scaled down ppe similarly practical and suitable instead of a lockdown.....my point not the 'only' way.


'Least amount of deaths'....your digging that logic hole deeper. What lives are worth saving? Only those vulnerable to catching covid? What about those vulnerable to suicide etc? Again another baseless conclusion. You should have said (if I agreed with your statement).....'reduce the amount of deaths attributed to being directly infectes by COVID'

'Months and years'. Aren't we just flattening the curve? Thats exactly the aim. Oh and BTW..... The two opposing binary, black and white models of lockdown and no lockdown both have the same or similar infection rates.

 

Case in point for my second paragraph above...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/health/coronavirus-vaccines-measles.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgt ype=Homepage

 

Res ipsa loquitor

 

In the timeline/universe I inhabit, we exercised a lockdown to mitigate spread while simultaneously instituting various other social distancing measures. What we are seeing is now the result of those combined actions. A squirrel in my neighborhood died, and I stepped on a butterfly. I can’t prove it, but my hypothesis is that lockdown and social distancing were responsible for lowering R more than the squirrel’s sacrifice.

Avoiding the ad populum fallacy; I’ll add that the United Kingdom, Germany, China, Korea, Australia, the UAE and the USA all took pretty much the same measures. I’ve been in/out of all of them since January. So, might I suggest that when the majority of the world has reached the same conclusions, maybe the burden of argument lies with those that are saying the majority is wrong?

Or, if you’re just trying to point out that I drew a conclusion that: the numbers we’re seeing now are a result of our earlier actions and when we acted. Then yes, that is a conclusion.

 

Just becaus eother countries did it doesnt mean its correct. And if thats your argumnet why are the numbers so different? After all it is the most effective measure (your words)

New York was on lockdown.......lots-a deaths.

hmm

 

Beijing under a new major lockdown. I bet they are trying to improve CNN ratings! It must be another virus hoax.

It's strange how they are handling the virus compared to the United States.

 

Yes exactly they did a lockdown which was only partly effective then they prematuerly opened it and low and behold the economy came back, alas they had to go back into lockdown. Really gotta snuff it out fully.

Take Canada for example, brilliant plan in Ontario, the exemplar; dont open economy until it is completely dead. No compromises.

And NZ. They sorta killed the virus (but now its back, dang nature and its sneaky ways that us mortal humans will never understand) but they never fully killes the economy. So they may have to go back into lockdown to make sure its dead.

Now the USA.....opened way to early. Its gonna be carnage. Parents will be ripped away from their kids for over 8hrs a day 5 days a week. Children will be forcebly placed in institutions five days a week. Hoards of people will migrate on mass halfway across the country to worship a man sized mouse. Traffic accidents will go up..... Oh the list is endless....and for what?....

 

Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!

 

The funny thing about prediction models is that they're always changing.


Arizona and Florida are already spiking past the previous prediction only a few days ago.
Also, what happens after October 1st?

Don't be so smug.