It's just the flu!
04-17-2020 | 07:00 PM
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04-17-2020 | 08:45 PM
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who the hell brings up politics at work? Anytime someone does I give a “uh huh” and look out the window.
04-17-2020 | 08:53 PM
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2018-2019 influenza deaths- 61,200
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.
For the love of god, use your big brains on this.
Please stop saying this is just the flu. Run the numbers yourself instead of listening to fox trying to compare this to HIV or SARS.
I’m not justifying shutting down the economy, but stop deluding yourself trying to say it’s just the flu. It’s not, and the people that do this **** for a living agree.
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.
For the love of god, use your big brains on this.
Please stop saying this is just the flu. Run the numbers yourself instead of listening to fox trying to compare this to HIV or SARS.
I’m not justifying shutting down the economy, but stop deluding yourself trying to say it’s just the flu. It’s not, and the people that do this **** for a living agree.
04-18-2020 | 03:20 AM
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04-18-2020 | 07:50 AM
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04-18-2020 | 11:47 AM
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[QUOTE=Nvrgofullretard;3034906]2018-2019 influenza deaths- 61,200
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.””””””
That’s not really true and the flu is just as deadly in nursing homes. The fact we have a flu vaccination that most nursing homes require helps.
Outbreaks of infectious diseases can decimate resident populations in nursing home facilities. For example, Morens and Rash [1] reported an outbreak of influenza A infection in a 37-bed unit of a 5-ward nursing home in Honolulu, Hawaii, that affected 28% of exposed residents, even though 92% of residents had received influenza vaccine prior to the outbreak. Moreover, 6 (55%) of 11 infected residents died of their illness.
This is what flu looks like without a vaccination. Note the 2009 outbreak with vaccinations.
An influenza pandemic is an epidemic of an influenza virus that spreads on a worldwide scale and infects a large proportion of the world population. In contrast to the regular seasonal epidemics of influenza, these pandemics occur irregularly – there have been five influenza pandemics during the last 140 years. Pandemics can cause high levels of mortality, with the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic being the worst in recorded history; this pandemic was estimated to be responsible for the deaths of 50–100 million people. The most recent, the 2009 flu pandemic, resulted in under a million deaths and is considered relatively mild.
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.””””””
That’s not really true and the flu is just as deadly in nursing homes. The fact we have a flu vaccination that most nursing homes require helps.
Outbreaks of infectious diseases can decimate resident populations in nursing home facilities. For example, Morens and Rash [1] reported an outbreak of influenza A infection in a 37-bed unit of a 5-ward nursing home in Honolulu, Hawaii, that affected 28% of exposed residents, even though 92% of residents had received influenza vaccine prior to the outbreak. Moreover, 6 (55%) of 11 infected residents died of their illness.
This is what flu looks like without a vaccination. Note the 2009 outbreak with vaccinations.
An influenza pandemic is an epidemic of an influenza virus that spreads on a worldwide scale and infects a large proportion of the world population. In contrast to the regular seasonal epidemics of influenza, these pandemics occur irregularly – there have been five influenza pandemics during the last 140 years. Pandemics can cause high levels of mortality, with the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic being the worst in recorded history; this pandemic was estimated to be responsible for the deaths of 50–100 million people. The most recent, the 2009 flu pandemic, resulted in under a million deaths and is considered relatively mild.
04-18-2020 | 12:11 PM
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04-18-2020 | 12:40 PM
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2018-2019 influenza deaths- 61,200
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.
For the love of god, use your big brains on this.
Please stop saying this is just the flu. Run the numbers yourself instead of listening to fox trying to compare this to HIV or SARS.
I’m not justifying shutting down the economy, but stop deluding yourself trying to say it’s just the flu. It’s not, and the people that do this **** for a living agree.
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.
For the love of god, use your big brains on this.
Please stop saying this is just the flu. Run the numbers yourself instead of listening to fox trying to compare this to HIV or SARS.
I’m not justifying shutting down the economy, but stop deluding yourself trying to say it’s just the flu. It’s not, and the people that do this **** for a living agree.
Influenza deaths (estimates) these numbers are USA only:
2010-11 37,000
2011-12 12,000
2012-13 43,000
2013-14 38,000
2014-15 51,000
2015-16 23,000
2016-17 38,000
Next two are preliminary estimates from CDC
2017-18 61,000
2018-19 34,157
The cases of USA influenza ranged from 21 mil. to 45 mil. (I threw out 2011-12 of 9.2 million as an outlier)
As of the morning of the 17th the CDC says we have 690,714 cases of COVID-19 with 35,443 deaths from it
WorldOmeter at end of day (Zulu) listed cases as 709,735 with 37,154 deaths.
I suspect we will be well over 38,000 dead at end of today as 2000 plus per day are dying from it. This in 2 months, with the majority in just one month. Now go back and compare to 12 month numbers regarding influenza plus the deaths versus total cases.
NYC has borne the brunt of this.
04-18-2020 | 12:45 PM
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[QUOTE=sailingfun;3035305]
Sorry, but it's not a flu. It is easily contagious like a flu, butt's way more deadly. There's a reason the whole world is taking it seriously. This talking point that "it's just a flu and the media is blowing it up" becomes a dangerous political game that's gonna jeopardize the recovery, and even further delay the economical rebound.
2018-2019 influenza deaths- 61,200
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.””””””
That’s not really true and the flu is just as deadly in nursing homes. The fact we have a flu vaccination that most nursing homes require helps.
Outbreaks of infectious diseases can decimate resident populations in nursing home facilities. For example, Morens and Rash [1] reported an outbreak of influenza A infection in a 37-bed unit of a 5-ward nursing home in Honolulu, Hawaii, that affected 28% of exposed residents, even though 92% of residents had received influenza vaccine prior to the outbreak. Moreover, 6 (55%) of 11 infected residents died of their illness.
This is what flu looks like without a vaccination. Note the 2009 outbreak with vaccinations.
An influenza pandemic is an epidemic of an influenza virus that spreads on a worldwide scale and infects a large proportion of the world population. In contrast to the regular seasonal epidemics of influenza, these pandemics occur irregularly – there have been five influenza pandemics during the last 140 years. Pandemics can cause high levels of mortality, with the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic being the worst in recorded history; this pandemic was estimated to be responsible for the deaths of 50–100 million people. The most recent, the 2009 flu pandemic, resulted in under a million deaths and is considered relatively mild.
Covid first case-feb 26th
US deaths- 34,180
In 2 months we have seen half as many fatalities as influenza, and the country has adopted social distancing as a mitigation factor. You can quote .01% or whatever, but this thing infects EVERYONE. If it gets into a nursing home almost everyone will die.””””””
That’s not really true and the flu is just as deadly in nursing homes. The fact we have a flu vaccination that most nursing homes require helps.
Outbreaks of infectious diseases can decimate resident populations in nursing home facilities. For example, Morens and Rash [1] reported an outbreak of influenza A infection in a 37-bed unit of a 5-ward nursing home in Honolulu, Hawaii, that affected 28% of exposed residents, even though 92% of residents had received influenza vaccine prior to the outbreak. Moreover, 6 (55%) of 11 infected residents died of their illness.
This is what flu looks like without a vaccination. Note the 2009 outbreak with vaccinations.
An influenza pandemic is an epidemic of an influenza virus that spreads on a worldwide scale and infects a large proportion of the world population. In contrast to the regular seasonal epidemics of influenza, these pandemics occur irregularly – there have been five influenza pandemics during the last 140 years. Pandemics can cause high levels of mortality, with the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic being the worst in recorded history; this pandemic was estimated to be responsible for the deaths of 50–100 million people. The most recent, the 2009 flu pandemic, resulted in under a million deaths and is considered relatively mild.
04-18-2020 | 02:15 PM
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Sorry, but it's not a flu. It is easily contagious like a flu, butt's way more deadly. There's a reason the whole world is taking it seriously. This talking point that "it's just a flu and the media is blowing it up" becomes a dangerous political game that's gonna jeopardize the recovery, and even further delay the economical rebound.
This paper is updated regularly as new data is peer reviewed, the last update was April 17th:
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global...atality-rates/
Taking account of historical experience, trends in the data, increased number of infections in the population at largest, and potential impact of misclassification of deaths gives a presumed estimate for the COVID-19 IFR somewhere between 0.1% and 0.36%.*
It is now scientifically within the realm of possibility to say COVID-19 is no deadlier than a typical flu. It is likely more deadly, but traditionally as pandemics evolve the CFR and iFR decrease.
It is currently inaccurate to say "it is way more deadly than the flu". This is not politics, this is international science. But of course this will become very political, and rightly so. Because the crap is about to hit the fan.
I strongly urge everyone to read the section of the research "Estimating COVID-19 Infection Fatality Rates (IFR)". It is an enlightening read on the mischaracterization of the severity of this virus.
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