GogglesPisano

From the SRH:

"Do I have to accept the trip?
A pilot is considered to have accepted a pro er if he has verbally accepted the assignment from a schedul- er or acknowledged the rotation via IVR, the Crew Auto Noti cation System, or iCrew. When speaking to a scheduler, a pilot should ascertain whether or not the award or assignment is a pro er and, if unsure, should simply ask the scheduler.A pilot’s obligation to accept a trip on X days or regular line o days is not absolute, regardless of whether the trip is or is not a pro er. A variety of circumstances might prevent a pilot from accepting a trip.
For example:
• Not being physically located so as to be able to report.
• Having recently consumed alcohol.
• Lack of available child care.
• Lack of available transportation.
• Not being adequately rested. For example:
A pilot, not on call, noti ed of a rotation with a report time within 10 hours should consider if he
is su ciently rested to accept the scheduled rotation.
A pilot is not required to accept an inverse assignment that does not allow for 10 hours of rest
between acknowledgement and report time for the assigned rotation."

Bottom line: Never answer a call from Scheduling unless you're on short-call. This technique avoids this can of worms to begin with.

gloopy

In and Out of base ones happen ALL the time like that. ALL. THE. TIME. That's just common sense. You are entitled to put in or out of base for every base. Many do. You obviously can't be at every base, nor is it possible to accurately adjust a round the clock min time to report either. So you can put in blanket requests and when they call you say "here I am, where do we go from here?" and its up to them.

Happens every single day, all the time. This is more than precedent. No one refutes this. Now that doesn't mean you can just say "nah, I could do it but I don't feel like it". On the contrary, you're saying you will do it...if the time it takes you to get there is OK with them. That time can be as long as it takes from anywhere in the world. Anyone is freely within their rights to put in a GS (in or out of base) and answer the phone no matter where they are.

Do you really think a blanket GS request binds you to a short call-ish distance from the base(s) in which you put the request, 24/7/365?

How about you find us that reference.

gloopy

This. Right. Here.

Issue settled.

Cycle Pilot

The SRH is not our contract. And that part of the SRH is talking about Inverse Assignments. Not green slips.

Ask and you shall receive...

PWA Section 23. Q. 8.

8. A pilot will be obligated to fly a GS or GSWC rotation if he is:
a. notified of and acknowledges the award.
b. on a duty, FTD, or simulator period when Crew Scheduling attempts to notify him of the award, the award is under Section 23 N., and he has indicated in his GS or GSWC request under Section 23 E. 4. b. his willingness to automatically acknowledge such an award.

GogglesPisano

No, but is disseminated by ALPA with the blessing of the Company (part of the Content Locker now.) So it's just as good.

Incorrect. Scroll up -- it's referencing all proffers.

notEnuf

8.a. is the key. DON'T answer your phone or acknowledge in the computer. It will go away (to the next eligible) if not acknowledged. Not officially a proffer but you don't have to do it unless it's acknowledged. I had a CP tell me just don't answer the phone if it's not a same day trip.

NEVER answer the call. Even on short call you should screen the call and respond within 15 minutes if necessary.

sailingfun

I have refused many GS's. I do try and only put in for what I want but circumstances can prevent getting there. Not once have I ever been questioned when I said I could not make it. I don't play games however and if I can make it I go even if it's something I may not have exactly wanted.

notEnuf

define "games"

You are using the rights provided by the PWA.

GogglesPisano

This. I was called for a next day 1 day trip. I told them my qualifier is only trips > 10hrs. They told me that's not what iCrew said and I was obligated. I checked and sure enough I had checked the wrong box. I was on the hook and flew the trip.

Again. The smartest choice is to simply not answer the phone unless you're on short call.

WickedSmaht

Let's try this again..where did I say it WAS a proffer?? I SAID (and you quoted) that you have no claim to "turning down a green slip". Ergo (Latin), NOT a proffer. So...I'll be waiting.