AE is out on icrew.
09-11-2019, 03:13 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 648
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Eh. In SLC on the lowest paying jet. We need ATL captain positions.
09-11-2019, 04:58 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: M88A
Posts: 672
Originally Posted by Big E 757
You know, to some of us, Atlanta isn’t the center of the universe. We need wide body Captain positions. That helps everyone.
09-11-2019, 05:21 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 350
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Fall of 2020 is the very earliest I see a vote and that’s not even likely. We have closed one section that had any real cost involved. Mediation is mandated in the contract this spring. It can take months to get a mediator assigned and set up a meeting schedule. There are often weeks or even months between mediated sessions.
09-11-2019, 07:22 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Fall of 2020 is the very earliest I see a vote and that’s not even likely. We have closed one section that had any real cost involved. Mediation is mandated in the contract this spring. It can take months to get a mediator assigned and set up a meeting schedule. There are often weeks or even months between mediated sessions.
It seems to me that, with a company as large as we are and as important to the economy, they want to get a resolution as quickly as possible and try to set a fairly aggressive schedule. Now what happens during those first few meetings can set the pace. But initially I think they will get involved fairly quickly.
What happens in the long run could very well be a different story. I hope the Scope arbitrations are decided fairly soon and that the Arbitrator decides in the Unions favor.......heavily. Consistently violating the Contract and doing nothing about it will stand in our favor.
Denny
09-11-2019, 08:35 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Jun 2016
Position: Not an RJ driver anymore
Posts: 1,033
Originally Posted by bohicagain
Some one drank the koolaid. They also announced a june AE for the MD88 displacement mix up. Never happened.
They won't issue another AE this fall. More than likely they not have any more AE's this year. They will have a MOAB in January to do a 365 Bid. Send most of the pilots to training from Feb- May and then after summer.
They won't issue another AE this fall. More than likely they not have any more AE's this year. They will have a MOAB in January to do a 365 Bid. Send most of the pilots to training from Feb- May and then after summer.
09-11-2019, 09:01 AM
#50
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Captain
Posts: 821
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Well when is the last time it's taken months for a mediator to be assigned to one of our Contract negotiations? I can't remember a time that it hasn't happened fairly quickly.
It seems to me that, with a company as large as we are and as important to the economy, they want to get a resolution as quickly as possible and try to set a fairly aggressive schedule. Now what happens during those first few meetings can set the pace. But initially I think they will get involved fairly quickly.
What happens in the long run could very well be a different story. I hope the Scope arbitrations are decided fairly soon and that the Arbitrator decides in the Unions favor.......heavily. Consistently violating the Contract and doing nothing about it will stand in our favor.
Denny
It seems to me that, with a company as large as we are and as important to the economy, they want to get a resolution as quickly as possible and try to set a fairly aggressive schedule. Now what happens during those first few meetings can set the pace. But initially I think they will get involved fairly quickly.
What happens in the long run could very well be a different story. I hope the Scope arbitrations are decided fairly soon and that the Arbitrator decides in the Unions favor.......heavily. Consistently violating the Contract and doing nothing about it will stand in our favor.
Denny
Compare that with groups that have gone in with a long laundry list of items that were unresolved and a MC or Pres (APA/Loyd Hill) that they feel is unlikely to negotiate, and the NMB will barely give you the time of day.
Now, this is not an absolute. If the company is the problem and they are stonewalling on every issue and we are the reasonable party involved, we get more time. On the other hand, if we are the ones that aren’t truly negotiating, they will have no problem letting us live under the current PWA.
All one needs to do is go back and look at the bargaining cycles of all the different pilot groups in mediation the last 15 years to see the trend.
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