Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2960787)

First, contingent vacancies ARE offered to the pilot group at large, they just aren't specifically posted since they come available during the AE process. Secondly, I thought I had some old AE postings saved but apparently I deleted them so going through class drops won't help me unless someone else has some old ones.

Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 2960841)

I'll believe new hires on the ER in large numbers when I see it offered to NH classes

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Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 2960840)

There's been vacancies last two or three bids. I think 3 new hires have gone to it in the last 18 months.

When I hired (early 18) there had been consistently 2 or more ER slots a class.

Two years later, I have less than 10 below me.

Granted, this is more vacancies than we've had, but I haven't seen them offered to new hires even though there have been unfilled slots.

I do know when I went through IQ, there was a lot of grousing from the SLIs and NSLIs about it shouldn't be a new hire plane.

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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2961040)

As an SLI I don’t think there’s any problem with new hires coming on the fleet


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Originally Posted by weekendflyer (Post 2961062)

73N captain, NYC, how low will it go?



im guessing 12,500

Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2961040)

As an SLI I don’t think there’s any problem with new hires coming on the fleet


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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2961040)

As an SLI I don’t think there’s any problem with new hires coming on the fleet


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Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 2961023)

BS says many things. Unless the 330 starts picking up the 763 domestic stuff then I could see it possibly being bottom 20% being stupid junior, huge gap, then guys who don't bid it until they are safely in the international if I want it zone.

Again, will believe it when its posted in a new hire drop.

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2961092)

Shouldn’t be an issue now that we are parking the 76Ts. Airbus will be the heavy fleet soon. Aside from a few VIP charters the 7ER will continue to wither on the vine. I think that’s why BS sees new hires in the 330.

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961110)

Are we parking the 767-300ER? I thought those were supposed to be flying until like 2030 or something like that.

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961110)

Are we parking the 767-300ER? I thought those were supposed to be flying until like 2030 or something like that.

Originally Posted by notenuf (Post 2961120)

we are parking the t models because they aren’t getting the mods to remove the lower bunk

Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2961122)

the 't's are losing the bunks though which is quite sad.

Originally Posted by PilotWombat (Post 2961136)

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

filler

Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2961122)

We aren't parking them, not sure where he got that from. The 'T's are losing the bunks though which is quite sad. Also the Gulf Air birds that were gonna get parked are being re-fitted for NFL charters.

Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2961140)

The most recent update seems to imply rather than do that mod the T models are getting parked.

Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2961148)

Well crap, which of our many newsletters and updates did that come from? If so, I'll eat crow.

Edit: found it and that sucks.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2961152)

It’s delicious. :D

https://practicalselfreliance.com/eating-crow/

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2961120)

Just read we are parking the T models because they aren’t getting the mods to remove the lower bunk and increase the seat density so we’re not doing the heavy checks as they come due.

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961168)

how many of the 300s are T models?

Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2961172)

There are ships 1601-1613 but I'm not sure if each one is a T model. I think at least 1607 and up but not sure on the others, but about 7 it seems.

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961187)

so about 12% of our 763 fleet is getting parked early. Good to know, thank you.

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961110)

Are we parking the 767-300ER? I thought those were supposed to be flying until like 2030 or something like that.

Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 2961079)

I don't think it will drop below 12000. Trips are too good and payrate is significant boost from most FO pay. NYC717/220 will likely be in the 12500-13000 range

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Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 2961088)

Can only comment on what my experience was which is a data point of 1.


There were a couple straight out of military guys that needed some ET around that time but they all got on the line no problem.

The guys who said such to me thought it was tough to learn two airplanes while learning Delta procedures.

I didn't have an issue, but I spent most if my pre Delta Navy and Civil flying being multiple qualified. 60s and C12s, King Air and JetRanger, T44 and T34 etc.

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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2961092)

Shouldn’t be an issue now that we are parking the 76Ts. Airbus will be the heavy fleet soon. Aside from a few VIP charters the 7ER will continue to wither on the vine. I think that’s why BS sees new hires in the 330.

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961187)

so about 12% of our 763 fleet is getting parked early. Good to know, thank you.

Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 2961189)

I'm sticking on the fleet at least through the summer but after that change might need to happen on the next AE. Bummer to see its been fun.

Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2961200)

those airplanes will be parked when they come up for heavy checks. Not sure when that is but I don’t think it’s imminent nor will it be all at once.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2961246)

We had a schedule but it changed, which is why I don’t trust any communications. But more bad info is always fun for the social media entertainment value. BS knows more than us but the stuff he knew but didn’t apply to reality is what I want to know. Plans change like the weather around here.

Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2961198)

only a few of them


i think it's going to come really close to 12k


yeah, having trained both on the fleet new hires generally show up more prepared than anyone else


we are only parking a few 76s, that has nothing to do with the fleet plan for new hires.

parking them in lieu of a few other airplanes...the gulf air birds are going to charters instead of being parked so it's still a net loss but doesnt sting as much.

Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 2961335)

I’ve heard rumblings of the NFL doing something with some 767s like the NBA did with the 757s. Anyone know if there’s any truth to that? And why would you park anything with the Max RTS delayed through the summer unless there’s not enough of us to fly them.

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2961351)

I flew a charter the other day and the charter coordinator said yes were picking up NFL charters on the 76.

Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 2961293)

Considering the T’s accelerated parking do any of ya’ll crystalballers see 7ERA going below 8500?

Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2961418)

are charters considered a good deal. I’ve seen some with crazy bad quasi red eyes. Like takeoff out of philly at 1am and land in New York at 2:30am

Originally Posted by RamenNoodles (Post 2961442)

I’d argue that anything keeping widebody time in the fleet is a good deal!

Side bar regarding the 76T’s; those are the newest and most capable 767-300’s on property delivered around 1999-2001 timeframe. From what I understand, those frames will not be reconfigured in high density as planned, but they will replace a commensurate number of the older 76L’s from the early 1990’s and remain in the fleet. It’s a wash with regard to block hours and AE positions, but they have electric seats so I suppose it’s worth noting :D

Originally Posted by Broncos (Post 2961483)

I did a couple out of curiosity but now I avoid them. The odd hours are bad enough. What's worse is when you get to the jet, only to find out the game went extra innings/overtime. Now you're sitting on a dead jet for hours earning squat.