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Old 03-30-2020, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by surfer1212
Sorry if this scenario has already been addressed, but I didn’t feel like digging through 17 pages. My originally awarded pairing was a 5 day with 26hrs of credit. The first 3 days was a GUA layover followed by 2 days of domestic. GUA was removed, and they basically changed the pairing to a 2 day trip with credit of 13hrs. Eventually that canceled as well, and even though it is showing 23k on all 5 days, the credit is only showing the adjusted 13hrs. I should still be getting paid the original 26hrs, correct? Thanks for the help.
Does your time card show the rotation closed? If yes contact crew scheduling to have it resolved. If your time card say open relax and wait until it shows closed. Both the union and CS are swamped. Don’t bother them with rotations still showing open.
To answer your other question yes you get 26 hours pay.
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:20 AM
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Don’t wait contact your base chief pilot. Crew schedule may not catch it. My trip was like that also chief pilot fixed it. If your trip is noop or canceled you get full pay.
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:46 AM
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I know the company can alter a carry out trip. Is there a limit to the modification? Would a carry out trip ever get noop’d or can they just keep changing it?
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Old 03-30-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
I know the company can alter a carry out trip. Is there a limit to the modification? Would a carry out trip ever get noop’d or can they just keep changing it?
I’ve got a 4 day carry out trip starting tomorrow the 31st. It’s been noop’d.
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Old 03-30-2020, 12:27 PM
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This 23k stuff is making my head spin . The two day trip I start on April 1 is a DH to SLC to do a turn out of there with day 2 being one leg DH back to base.

Travel net has the turn cancelled so I’m thinking the rotation will noop. So if I acknowledge the noop prior to report I do not have to answer the phone until original trip report time? Even if they assign a recovery trip after the noop?

Once I get to report time I then have to answer the phone where there is a 6 hour window for 12 hour callout.
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Old 03-30-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mesaba13
This 23k stuff is making my head spin . The two day trip I start on April 1 is a DH to SLC to do a turn out of there with day 2 being one leg DH back to base.

Travel net has the turn cancelled so I’m thinking the rotation will noop. So if I acknowledge the noop prior to report I do not have to answer the phone until original trip report time? Even if they assign a recovery trip after the noop?

Once I get to report time I then have to answer the phone where there is a 6 hour window for 12 hour callout.
If they noop your trip and you acknowledge before report time then you have a 12 hour call out during that 6 hour window. If you acknowledge after report then you are basically airport reserve for 6 hours.

They can assign a rotation before you report (before the 6 hour window) but you're not required to acknowledge until original report time and you'll get the 12 hour call out as long as you acknowledged the noop before report.

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Old 03-30-2020, 02:09 PM
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So if a rsrv pilot says no to a lvl3 CDC destination trip he gets put back on rsrv and still gets paid. So if your a 23k and say no to a lvl3 trip do you still get payed like a rsrv pilot?
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
I know the company can alter a carry out trip. Is there a limit to the modification? Would a carry out trip ever get noop’d or can they just keep changing it?
They can modify a carry out trip once and must publish it in the bid package for the carry out month. Once that happens it’s just another trip contract wise.
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Old 03-30-2020, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They can modify a carry out trip once and must publish it in the bid package for the carry out month. Once that happens it’s just another trip contract wise.
I am talking about a trip that is already on my line. It changed this morning at 0300 then again at 0930 but still on my line as operating. Should it be noop’d? Should that be double 23k and removed with no obligation?
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Old 03-30-2020, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
I am talking about a trip that is already on my line. It changed this morning at 0300 then again at 0930 but still on my line as operating. Should it be noop’d? Should that be double 23k and removed with no obligation?
Call them and ask. That’s what I did after similar and now I’m watching Wicked Tuna on my couch.
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