Wednesday's are Trigonometry in Florida's online program. 3 hours of banging one's head against a wall and you'd be pizzed.

 

that really did make me laugh out loud

 

Thursday's are genealogy in Georgia. just draw a straight line. bingo. done for the day.

 

That is an emotional response. Every airline in the country is in the same boat. The name of the game is survival mode and that means getting the cash burn to 0 as quickly as possible (most are aiming for before the end of the year) in order to ride out this storm. This is beyond contract negotiations. The virus won't care how deep the list goes. Airlines will do what it takes to survive - it's their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders (note I didn't say anything about employees). That's why when Boeing announced layoffs last month, the stock actually went up.

No matter what color is painted on the tail, we're all going to be in this together. Stay strong, unified, and take care of each other.

 

It used to be 180 days, but was changed in the last contract to read as 6 bid periods. Under the previous language, the 180 days after your conversion would expire in the 5th month just a few days before the beginning of a conversion window of another bid when the timing was right. Pilots were missing the opportunity to exercise their reinstatement rights by literally 2 or 3 days. The real intent behind the old language when it was negotiated many moons ago when we had LOT bidding was that 180 days was basically 6 bid periods and it was extremely rare for a pilot to get caught by this. When we switched bid period begin dates it increased the likelihood that a pilot would come up a few days short of being able to exercise reinstatement rights and the company agreed to reword it to reflect bid periods so it was more straightforward for everyone involved.

 

Section 22 F.10. says "A pilot will receive at least 30 days advance notice from the Company of the conversion date of his displacement."

 

No, it is not.
Believe me our competition doesn't view it like that. You can't shrink into profitability.

We have a revenue problem, they've told us this in no uncertain terms. There are ways to mitigate that, one of which is issuing shares of stock. SWA did, but for some reason our vaunted management group deems that not necessary. Targeted rates for EPS for bonuses down the line? IDK. All I know is its not happening.

So the revenue crunch is being fought by reducing expenses (chose to fight it from the cost side of the sheet). They'd rather take it out of our backs - we're a cost to be controlled. Their dilemma is balancing the cuts with not losing market, and then trying to rapidly jump on market once this opens up. Shrink us too fast, you can't jump on the boom on the back side. Don't shrink enough - see cost problem. Again, many ways to fight this. You mention the other airlines, you should look at how they are fighting this. IMHO, we are cutting too deep - well they at least are telling us that (see reason I don't think we are going to furlough 2500+).

Already they are adding flights back in for June and July. They'll add more too. Just wait. However, they have to balance that with the FUD. They want concessions, what, where and how much $$ is anyone's guess. Maybe the association will enlighten us in the next few days.

But yeah, ummm, no. I'm far from emotional about this mess. I do agree we need to remain united thru this all.

Enjoy your day. I've got to get the boat ready for our spearfishing trip tomorrow.

 

You sir are obviously not in the mid-Atlantic coast area stuck in this horrible weather cycle all week! Good luck, catch em up!

 

Personally, I'd be fine sitting on our current contract for the next...however long. I wouldn't negotiate jack right now relative to a new contract. Just let that sleeping dog lie for now.

 

So I'm a fairly new guy, 2016 hire. I sit early 11000'ish. If they are going to keep 10730, looks like I wont have a chair when the music stops. But will be above that max number of 11,628. So from reading the above does that mean that (pending any other changes) I would be put in UNA status and likely furloughed come Oct 1st?

My understanding is furloughs are generally staged out and don't necessarily hit all at once?

I have a plan B and second source of guaranteed income...working on a plan C that's non-aviation...