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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
You weren’t with me in the crashpad in NYC with the money hungry delta captains were you then, huh?

Trust me, when the going gets tough there’ll be pilots from 1999 who’ll put aside QOL and their families to spend the night in a crashpad with me in NYC, just so they can wear the four bars and pull that CA paycheck.
Or, single guys or ones with no kids who remember 08. People who had money to spend bought places on the beach and made 200% a few years later. To each their own.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
18 days/month? That’s what we’re looking at for the indefinite future. Long call will be the new short call for a lot of people who have a window of vulnerability in the evening where they can’t make a 12-hr call-out for a morning report.

Or maybe guys haven’t thought this all the way through.
The grizzled face of Delta CA slumming it in a Kew Gardens crashpad far from his house and family in Dallas TX. It’s something to behold.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Simple math: The junior CA now is 77%. There's no reason to think it would be any different after a displacement.
I'm not sure I agree. In the absence of profit sharing, easy access to green slips and a guarantee that one's rate and/or ALV won't be dropping in the months and years ahead, I could see plenty of F/Os jump to Captain. It's a sizable pay RATE bump from most right seats, which many may think they need in a post-COVID world.

Time will tell. Hopefully not too much time.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
The grizzled face of Delta CA slumming it in a Kew Gardens crashpad far from his house and family in Dallas TX. It’s something to behold.
It almost sounds romantic the way you describe it.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
I'm not sure I agree. In the absence of profit sharing, easy access to green slips and a guarantee that one's rate and/or ALV won't be dropping in the months and years ahead, I could see plenty of F/Os jump to Captain. It's a sizable pay RATE bump from most right seats, which many may think they need in a post-COVID world.
Balance that with the fact that widebody pilots are going to have it pretty easy for the indefinite future. As always, it's a money vs QOL issue. Narrowbody A's will be working harder than ever going forward.

We'll find out Friday/Monday.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:37 PM
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Likely this bid is going to fall far more in linear seniority order than anthing in last 6 years.

Linear on the list...and in base.

Pilots paying attention would rightly assume this is just the first go round
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Old 05-26-2020 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Likely this bid is going to fall far more in linear seniority order than anthing in last 6 years.

Linear on the list...and in base.

Pilots paying attention would rightly assume this is just the first go round
Not so sure. Intl (330+) WB FO spots used to be 12+
year positions. Still very top heavy. The QOL, especially if commuting to a line or living in base will be far better than a junior NB A. I’d happily take the $ hit for the improved QOL. I live on substantially less than I make now.
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Old 05-26-2020 | 04:49 AM
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It will all depend on where the massive number of MD88 pilots bid.

Of those few I've spoken to, they are going for seniority. They camped on the MD88 for seniority. Many are bidding way down into the narrow-body B slots. Wisened veterans of Delta's crisis staffing are positioning for green slips.

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Old 05-26-2020 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
The grizzled face of Delta CA slumming it in a Kew Gardens crashpad far from his house and family in Dallas TX. It’s something to behold.
It is a sitcom in the making.

We used to have a kinda self-absorbed Cheif Pilot in ATL who published a newsletter called the "Coolaid Chronicle" which was published with such pride that it was mounted behind plexiglass in the bathrooms for your reading enjoyment. He would share his wisdom, about how he did things, his safety pointers and what not.

So one day I went to the bathroom to read and observed the front page was under the title "A Word from Captain Wing..." in the middle of a completely blank page was "me" ... now interested I pressed further into this perfect copy of the newletter and found this article on page 2.

"ALPA Defends Pilot"

"The company is investigating the sick call of Captain Smith who was featured in the local papers as having come in third at a celebrity pro-am golf tournament on a day that Captain Smith had called in sick." ... ALPA responds, "just think how Captain Smith would have played if he had been feeling better."

This spoof newsletter was perfect in formatting and printing. A huge witch hunt, involving hundred hours of interns watching videos to identify who had done the bathroom memo switcheroo, identified a crashpad of bored captains :-)
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Old 05-26-2020 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
It is a sitcom in the making.

We used to have a kinda self-absorbed Cheif Pilot in ATL who published a newsletter called the "Coolaid Chronicle" which was published with such pride that it was mounted behind plexiglass in the bathrooms for your reading enjoyment. He would share his wisdom, about how he did things, his safety pointers and what not.

So one day I went to the bathroom to read and observed the front page was under the title "A Word from Captain Wing..." in the middle of a completely blank page was "me" ... now interested I pressed further into this perfect copy of the newletter and found this article on page 2.

"ALPA Defends Pilot"

"The company is investigating the sick call of Captain Smith who was featured in the local papers as having come in third at a celebrity pro-am golf tournament on a day that Captain Smith had called in sick." ... ALPA responds, "just think how Captain Smith would have played if he had been feeling better."

This spoof newsletter was perfect in formatting and printing. A huge witch hunt, involving hundred hours of interns watching videos to identify who had done the bathroom memo switcheroo, identified a crashpad of bored captains :-)
Love it!
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