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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:25 PM
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Junior DL CA will be a 1999 hire. Just my WAG.

mid to late 2000 hire.....
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:40 PM
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Simple math: The junior CA now is 77%. There's no reason to think it would be any different after a displacement.

With a 19% reduction on this bid this puts him/her at 9100 or a 2014 hire.

And it still may be NYC. With the cutback in flying commuting to RES is an even more onerous existence than ever. Faced with the reality of having to commute in to sit long call I think NYC will remain the junior base.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
Junior DL CA will be a 1999 hire. Just my WAG.
Someone who has been here 21 years is going to commute to long call as the plug on the 220A in NY? I don't see that happening.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
Someone who has been here 21 years is going to commute to long call as the plug on the 220A in NY? I don't see that happening.
Popcopy is one of our more optimistic colleagues.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Exactly this.

The displacements are the prime directive from above, and are driving the whole
timeline. It’s no coincidence the bid closed with a week to make that happen, effective by the July bid period.

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This all makes sense. Still, it’s a huge bid, everyone will be impacted. I don’t know what the company would be on the hook for if there was a cascading series of misawards that went through and were successfully arbitrated after the fact.

Think the union is going to be extra thorough going over this one.

Wonder just how much $$ per day the company will save after conversion day? I’m sorry to say it, but the bigger push might be to get the AE done with time to get the F notices out per the contact time minimums pre Oct 1, and the push to rush a conversion date may be secondary on the timeline.

Although both are probably preferred.

Guess we’ll know soon enough. In the fullness of time, and all that.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 05:28 PM
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This all makes sense. Still, it’s a huge bid, everyone will be impacted. I don’t know what the company would be on the hook for if there was a cascading series of misawards that went through and were successfully arbitrated after the fact.

Think the union is going to be extra thorough going over this one.

Wonder just how much $$ per day the company will save after conversion day? I’m sorry to say it, but the bigger push might be to get the AE done with time to get the F notices out per the contact time minimums pre Oct 1, and the push to rush a conversion date may be secondary on the timeline.

Although both are probably preferred.

Guess we’ll know soon enough. In the fullness of time, and all that.

The only thing that will stop this from coming out prior to June 2 will be if they can’t reproduce the same result in dbms that they get from the manpower planning software. They will use the software and have the results they want by the end of tomorrow or Wednesday. Throw some time for everyone to look at it, and for them to try to release training dates and I think Friday or Monday. And if they have problems everyone will be working through the weekend to get it done by the 2nd. There is a lot of money at stake.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Popcopy is one of our more optimistic colleagues.
*takes a bow*

I’m already updating my logbooks for the post-furlough job hunt!
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
Someone who has been here 21 years is going to commute to long call as the plug on the 220A in NY? I don't see that happening.

You weren’t with me in the crashpad in NYC with the money hungry delta captains were you then, huh?

Trust me, when the going gets tough there’ll be pilots from 1999 who’ll put aside QOL and their families to spend the night in a crashpad with me in NYC, just so they can wear the four bars and pull that CA paycheck.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
You weren’t with me in the crashpad in NYC with the money hungry delta captains were you then, huh?

Trust me, there’ll always be pilots here who’ll put aside QOL and their families to spend the night in a crashpad with me in NYC, just so they can wear the four bars and pull that CA paycheck.
18 days/month? That’s what we’re looking at for the indefinite future. Long call will be the new short call for a lot of people who have a window of vulnerability in the evening where they can’t make a 12-hr call-out for a morning report.

Or maybe guys haven’t thought this all the way through.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
You weren’t with me in the crashpad in NYC with the money hungry delta captains were you then, huh?

Trust me, when the going gets tough there’ll be pilots from 1999 who’ll put aside QOL and their families to spend the night in a crashpad with me in NYC, just so they can wear the four bars and pull that CA paycheck.
Dude, that's one of the funnier posts I've seen from you! Totally accurate.
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