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Old 05-25-2020 | 02:42 PM
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My guess...at least a week to run, then another week for the union to go over the results. End of first week of June, earliest.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by deltabound
My guess...at least a week to run, then another week for the union to go over the results. End of first week of June, earliest.
I’ll take the under.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by deltabound
My guess...at least a week to run, then another week for the union to go over the results. End of first week of June, earliest.
I bet it’s out in time to convert MDs for July bid period. I believe an MD conversion requires 30 days notice. The July bid period starts July 2nd. I’d imagine they’ll be posted and those converting to lower categories notified before June 2 (those not requiring training or coming off the Maddog).
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EDVPLT
I think I might be one of the crazy ones but can someone please tell me if I am doing this math wrong. I have no clue how we could even come close to furloughing 2500 pilots and still be in a position for recovery. Almost 1800 pilots retire between now and end of 2022 which would bring us down to 12,857-2500=10,357 on the seniority list so roughly 9000-9500 active pilots flying by the end of 2022 if we did nothing. BS stated on Skyhub that the current projection is to have 11,500-12,000 active pilots for summer 2022 so maybe a seniority list of around 13,000. How could we realistically furlough 2500 pilots and have them all back by summer 2022. I understand these are just projections but if these are the real numbers they are looking at no way could we furlough that many pilots.
Not saying they will necessarily go that deep. But keep in mind, whether UNA or Furlough, both groups will have to go back to the training center. It’s a sunk cost at that point. That being said, if they do, it will likely be short lived, but at nearly a million a month per 100 furloughs, it’s a cost they won’t pass up eliminating, sadly.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by deltabound
My guess...at least a week to run, then another week for the union to go over the results. End of first week of June, earliest.
Can the union sit on it a week, pushing earliest conversions to 1 Aug? I would bet company posts without their ok if it gets to June 1st.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
I bet it’s out in time to convert MDs for July bid period. I believe an MD conversion requires 30 days notice. The July bid period starts July 2nd. I’d imagine they’ll be posted and those converting to lower categories notified before June 2 (those not requiring training or coming off the Maddog).
Exactly this.

The displacements are the prime directive from above, and are driving the whole
timeline. It’s no coincidence the bid closed with a week to make that happen, effective by the July bid period.

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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:11 PM
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by popcopy
Junior DL CA will be a 1999 hire. Just my WAG.
The junior NYC 717A had a 2014 hire date in 2016.
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Not saying they will necessarily go that deep. But keep in mind, whether UNA or Furlough, both groups will have to go back to the training center. It’s a sunk cost at that point. That being said, if they do, it will likely be short lived, but at nearly a million a month per 100 furloughs, it’s a cost they won’t pass up eliminating, sadly.
Can you be reinstated after you’ve converted to UNA and not require anything other than a quick requal?
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Old 05-25-2020 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Can you be reinstated after you’ve converted to UNA and not require anything other than a quick requal?
For some, yes. But how can they know who or how many will go back to the same equipment?

I guess my point is that the furlough decision is not based on that assumption
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