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Old 05-12-2020 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
That's pretty much what I've been thinking, though unless the feed is there, I could see a bunch of 320's going as well. They're getting old. Maybe even the same with the 765's, though I believe those just went through refit, so they might be hesitant to get rid of those. 777's will depend on traffic and whether or not they can find a lessor.

Once some reliable traffic comes back online though, there will be a stack of 220's down in Mobile just waiting for payment to come in before coming online. I would expect a lot of displacements to that aircraft, either to be furloughed or to be ready when things start coming back. Or both.
how many people could they displace to a 34 aircraft category? If we don’t take anymore deliveries this year and they say displace 500 more pilots to an already 500 pilot fleet but no new airplanes. Is that an assumption that they could expect to be furloughed? Just curious what they can do with a category that doesn’t have too many airframes.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 12:45 PM
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Thinking they might add a SLC330, LAX350 and BOS320 base on the bid. AA added a new MIA787 and CLT77 base. Maybe we get a little something positive with the displacements.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 12:52 PM
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Once some reliable traffic comes back online though, there will be a stack of 220's down in Mobile just waiting for payment to come in before coming online. I would expect a lot of displacements to that aircraft, either to be furloughed or to be ready when things start coming back. Or both.
Sign me up for a 220 ATL base
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Old 05-12-2020 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Thinking they might add a SLC330, LAX350 and BOS320 base on the bid. AA added a new MIA787 and CLT77 base. Maybe we get a little something positive with the displacements.


Would this help minimize the potential for paid moves?


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Old 05-12-2020 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
how many people could they displace to a 34 aircraft category? If we don’t take anymore deliveries this year and they say displace 500 more pilots to an already 500 pilot fleet but no new airplanes. Is that an assumption that they could expect to be furloughed? Just curious what they can do with a category that doesn’t have too many airframes.
All of us, if they want.

Assuming Airbus keeps manufacturing aircraft in the interim, by the time Delta starts bringing new aircraft online again, there will be at least 13 but more likely 20+ A220's just sitting on the ramp somewhere waiting to be flown. At 12.5 pilots per plane, that covers 250 or more pilots. If that demand doesn't look like it'll show up, well, then here's a large collection of junior pilots on the (second) lowest paying aircraft just ripe to be furloughed. A lot of them might have even been converted without going to training, so they're just burning cash anyways just by existing.

Who knows. I could be way off, too. They don't call it a WAG for nothing.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Thinking they might add a SLC330, LAX350 and BOS320 base on the bid. AA added a new MIA787 and CLT77 base. Maybe we get a little something positive with the displacements.
Top Men told me it would be MIA320. It was mentioned at the training line check meeting for airmen. The topest source.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
Would this help minimize the potential for paid moves?


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I'd be very curious to know just how many pilots ever take the company paid move. My guess is: not many.

They're either in their "forever home" or the wife/kids make it impossible.

I don't know that percentage of pilots who take the move, but you can be certain the company does.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Top Men told me it would be MIA320. It was mentioned at the training line check meeting for airmen. The topest source.
Why do you have to tease me?
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Old 05-12-2020 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Top Men told me it would be MIA320. It was mentioned at the training line check meeting for airmen. The topest source.

I would take a MD with a paid move in a heartbeat....
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Old 05-12-2020 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
I really hope that the numbers on a displacement bid are not enough to scare the pilot group to cower in the corner. I mean we can already see that UAL dialed their numbers back and AALs isn't nearly as bad. I'd expect us to be somewhere in between.
AA guy here ours were ok because nearly 800 guys walked or we would be north or 2000. I am guessing they will offer more early outs once people decide they don’t want to commute to a NB when they can’t run with their WB pay today.
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