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Old 05-12-2020 | 04:12 PM
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My guess is all MD’s MD’d (more of a given), 717 all to ATL, A220 DTW/MSP, BOS 320, 765 all to one base (ATL or NYC). Reductions to 7ER systemwide. Hopeful for enough spots for all as it shakes out. The NOV AE was pretty massive and pipeline shut down for NH about 900 short, with a now extended timeline and retirements. Fat some CA positions to halt a waterfall with retirements and fat A200/717B to fill gaps.. We shall see soon enough. Trying to think positive.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Top Men told me it would be MIA320. It was mentioned at the training line check meeting for airmen. The topest source.
BOS was mentioned, MIA was brought up as a joke.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
BOS was mentioned, MIA was brought up as a joke.
My comment was also brought up as a joke.

Or was it...?
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Old 05-12-2020 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85
My guess is all MD’s MD’d (more of a given), 717 all to ATL, A220 DTW/MSP, BOS 320, 765 all to one base (ATL or NYC). Reductions to 7ER systemwide. Hopeful for enough spots for all as it shakes out. The NOV AE was pretty massive and pipeline shut down for NH about 900 short, with a now extended timeline and retirements. Fat some CA positions to halt a waterfall with retirements and fat A200/717B to fill gaps.. We shall see soon enough. Trying to think positive.

ive always remembered your logical thinking posts back in the 9E days. There are many ways this won’t be that bad for us here at Delta. But most of us Delta pilots have always been able to put our boots down and find the light in the dark. I’m with ya higney
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Old 05-12-2020 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by higney85
My guess is all MD’s MD’d (more of a given), 717 all to ATL, A220 DTW/MSP, BOS 320, 765 all to one base (ATL or NYC). Reductions to 7ER systemwide. Hopeful for enough spots for all as it shakes out. The NOV AE was pretty massive and pipeline shut down for NH about 900 short, with a now extended timeline and retirements. Fat some CA positions to halt a waterfall with retirements and fat A200/717B to fill gaps.. We shall see soon enough. Trying to think positive.
id say this post has most plausible outcome. 900 short on NHs plus retirements is good. Plug the 220 in as the 717s leave and buy more down the road if demand comes back. Plug the optional 321 NEOs in for the 757s if demand comes back. They have time to figure all this out as it happens. 330s replace ER flying. There’s going to be a lot of jets on the open market...you can bring us down to 5 fleets in 3-5 years no problem
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Old 05-12-2020 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
Plug the 220 in as the 717s leave and buy more down the road if demand comes back.
4th thread I’ve had to explain this on...

Talk to anyone that works in network or has flown the 220:

717/88/90/E195/CRJ900/twin aisle ATR1000 ≠ 220

A 220 is a 319 replacement.

The 220 makes its money on long, cross country flights. Flying it on routes less than an hour is a complete misuse of its advantage/strength

The 717 isn’t going anywhere unless you want to give up bottom scope.
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Old 05-12-2020 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
4th thread I’ve had to explain this on...

Talk to anyone that works in network or has flown the 220:

717/88/90/E195/CRJ900/twin aisle ATR1000 ≠ 220

A 220 is a 319 replacement.

The 220 makes its money on long, cross country flights. Flying it on routes less than an hour is a complete misuse of its advantage/strength

The 717 isn’t going anywhere unless you want to give up bottom scope.
I’m on the 220. Doing flights like LGA-BOS or EWR-DTW we use less gas than an E175 and fit 30 more PAX. It might not have been designed for short haul but it does it just fine. Look at its utilization in Europe with Swiss and Air Baltic. Not saying we are getting rid of the 717, but the 220 can fill a lot of markets if needed.
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Old 05-13-2020 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
I’m on the 220. Doing flights like LGA-BOS or EWR-DTW we use less gas than an E175 and fit 30 more PAX. It might not have been designed for short haul but it does it just fine. Look at its utilization in Europe with Swiss and Air Baltic. Not saying we are getting rid of the 717, but the 220 can fill a lot of markets if needed.
Not to mention that Delta bought the aircraft primarily for short haul flying.
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Old 05-13-2020 | 03:40 AM
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A220, A319, A320, A321,A330, A350....
il est temps pour vous les garçons de commencer à apprendre un peu le français
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Old 05-13-2020 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
4th thread I’ve had to explain this on...

Talk to anyone that works in network or has flown the 220:

717/88/90/E195/CRJ900/twin aisle ATR1000 ≠ 220

A 220 is a 319 replacement.

The 220 makes its money on long, cross country flights. Flying it on routes less than an hour is a complete misuse of its advantage/strength

The 717 isn’t going anywhere unless you want to give up bottom scope.
someone is going to fly Atl to ags, bhm, ALV, sav, chs, hsv, gsp.....etc. you think 777 over 220? Without the 717 those will be 737, 320, 220 routes as dictated by networking. Before this covid crap, seemed like the 737 was doing a lot of the previous MD routes.
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