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05-13-2020 | 12:21 PM
#101
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Yes, you could probably take on several ERJ's for that reason.
05-13-2020 | 12:31 PM
#103
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From: The Beginnings
[QUOTE=EDVPLT;3055030]Yeah, I know. But my thought is that if you physically remove enough seats from the aircraft, I think the required number of FA's would decrease. It's based on 1 FA per 50 physical seats.
If you're only going to fill 60% of your seats anyway due to COVID.
Example:
737 with 200 (ish) seats (now) = 4 FA min crew
737 with 40% removed...120 seats = 3 FA min crew
(I know what you're thinking: FA's must love me. This brainstorm just eliminated at least 30% of them until growth comes back)
If you're only going to fill 60% of your seats anyway due to COVID.
Example:
737 with 200 (ish) seats (now) = 4 FA min crew
737 with 40% removed...120 seats = 3 FA min crew
(I know what you're thinking: FA's must love me. This brainstorm just eliminated at least 30% of them until growth comes back)
05-13-2020 | 12:46 PM
#104
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[QUOTE=deltabound;3055038]
Yeah, I know. But my thought is that if you physically remove enough seats from the aircraft, I think the required number of FA's would decrease. It's based on 1 FA per 50 physical seats.
If you're only going to fill 60% of your seats anyway due to COVID.
Example:
737 with 200 (ish) seats (now) = 4 FA min crew
737 with 40% removed...120 seats = 3 FA min crew
(I know what you're thinking: FA's must love me. This brainstorm just eliminated at least 30% of them until growth comes back)
Oh my brain is slow sometimes, that just seems widely inefficient though, at least at the regional level. Regional FAs top out at about $35 an hour after 15 years. Seems like it would be more expensive to remove these seats than just keep them in. Mainline there may be more cost effective especially for maybe the 220 if you can get it down to 100 seats and only have 2 FAs required.
Yeah, I know. But my thought is that if you physically remove enough seats from the aircraft, I think the required number of FA's would decrease. It's based on 1 FA per 50 physical seats.
If you're only going to fill 60% of your seats anyway due to COVID.
Example:
737 with 200 (ish) seats (now) = 4 FA min crew
737 with 40% removed...120 seats = 3 FA min crew
(I know what you're thinking: FA's must love me. This brainstorm just eliminated at least 30% of them until growth comes back)
05-13-2020 | 01:51 PM
#105
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They currently have 123 of those according to APC, plus 17 700's and 42 200's. Its funny when people act like regional "contracts" are set in stone but legacy ones are not. They have to park the 35. Period. It doesn't mater where they come from or how it happens. They will not fly for DCI until and unless the top down flowback for them is reinstated otherwise they remain parked regardless of how that happens.
Awesome. Get some. Then lose the DCI gig for being out of scope compliance. I don't think the "separate certificate trick" works anymore either.
DL has continginces with DCI carriers and many options to stay in compliance with the DL PWA. You enforce whatever yours is and we'll enforce whatever ours is. Those 35 jets are gone unless a top down flow comes back.
Willing to "deal Jerry an ace" again? That could be one way.
https://news.delta.com/embraer-190-what-you-should-know
I don’t think they’re set in stone, and EDV has fat besides that letter (700s, 900s from GoJet and Skywest atmosphere).
I fully agree, park those 35 until we get the PWA provisions. I’m merely pointing out what jets DAL owns directly and what various agreements are in place.
05-13-2020 | 04:49 PM
#106
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Displacement Bid question
If I want to get displaced off of my current equipment, would a good technique be to put a very high Low % in my first bid that I would be unable to hold? I'm currently at 15% on my current jet and want to switch with the future displacement bid to something in DTW and I'm not overly concerned with what my seniority would be on that jet.
05-13-2020 | 04:55 PM
#107
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If I want to get displaced off of my current equipment, would a good technique be to put a very high Low % in my first bid that I would be unable to hold? I'm currently at 15% on my current jet and want to switch with the future displacement bid to something in DTW and I'm not overly concerned with what my seniority would be on that jet.
05-13-2020 | 05:34 PM
#109
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From: Doggie Style
Too many variables based on your current category and specific wants to really say. Read up on previous DALPA notes and the PWA to figure out your specific situation.
05-13-2020 | 05:52 PM
#110
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[QUOTE=gloopy;3054943]
They currently have 123 of those according to APC, plus 17 700's and 42 200's. Its funny when people act like regional "contracts" are set in stone but legacy ones are not. They have to park the 35. Period. It doesn't mater where they come from or how it happens. They will not fly for DCI until and unless the top down flowback for them is reinstated otherwise they remain parked regardless of how that happens.
Awesome. Get some. Then lose the DCI gig for being out of scope compliance. I don't think the "separate certificate trick" works anymore either.
DL has continginces with DCI carriers and many options to stay in compliance with the DL PWA. You enforce whatever yours is and we'll enforce whatever ours is. Those 35 jets are gone unless a top down flow comes back.
Willing to "deal Jerry an ace" again? That could be one way.
I'm pretty sure DCI only has to park 35 RJ's IF DL furloughs. No furloughs, no parking 35 jets.
Or just remove 6 seats. There are ways around it. And it has been done in the past.
They currently have 123 of those according to APC, plus 17 700's and 42 200's. Its funny when people act like regional "contracts" are set in stone but legacy ones are not. They have to park the 35. Period. It doesn't mater where they come from or how it happens. They will not fly for DCI until and unless the top down flowback for them is reinstated otherwise they remain parked regardless of how that happens.
Awesome. Get some. Then lose the DCI gig for being out of scope compliance. I don't think the "separate certificate trick" works anymore either.
DL has continginces with DCI carriers and many options to stay in compliance with the DL PWA. You enforce whatever yours is and we'll enforce whatever ours is. Those 35 jets are gone unless a top down flow comes back.
Willing to "deal Jerry an ace" again? That could be one way.
Or just remove 6 seats. There are ways around it. And it has been done in the past.
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