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05-28-2020 | 10:06 PM
#561
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What if the 777, DTW, MSP, and SLC 7ER closures is just a head fake to get the senior Captains to bite on an ERP? They publish the results, then offer an ERP. After a few hundred of them take the ERP to avoid commuting or training on the A350, and then in a few weeks they cancel the bid and do an AE that’s much more palatable. Would the timeline be too tight to pull that all off?
05-29-2020 | 12:25 AM
#562
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For sure! No way I would intentionally commute just to stay on a plane. For me, driving to work trumps any desire to fly a particular plane/type of flying. I'm not an intentional type collector, but a few weeks down in ATL is a small price to pay to be driving home shortly after I stroll off the plane on the go-home leg.
So avg ~75% of DTW 644 position losses or ~480 pilots might just commute to other bases to either stay on their acft or better seniority. I see ATL getting hit hard with the cascade and doing far more of the bid down to stay in base
05-29-2020 | 01:12 AM
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What if the 777, DTW, MSP, and SLC 7ER closures is just a head fake to get the senior Captains to bite on an ERP? They publish the results, then offer an ERP. After a few hundred of them take the ERP to avoid commuting or training on the A350, and then in a few weeks they cancel the bid and do an AE that’s much more palatable. Would the timeline be too tight to pull that all off?
This is a 365 day bid. So its the longest time window available for things to play out.
05-29-2020 | 03:21 AM
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What if the 777, DTW, MSP, and SLC 7ER closures is just a head fake to get the senior Captains to bite on an ERP? They publish the results, then offer an ERP. After a few hundred of them take the ERP to avoid commuting or training on the A350, and then in a few weeks they cancel the bid and do an AE that’s much more palatable. Would the timeline be too tight to pull that all off?
05-29-2020 | 03:28 AM
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IMHO, they want to scare the senior pilots to take early retirements. 20% from the top is more cost effective than 20% from the bottom. The senior 2014 hire still halfway through the payscale.
05-29-2020 | 03:35 AM
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05-29-2020 | 03:41 AM
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If they do a lump sum which appears to be the case for the non-cons, the calculus for former NWA with frozen pensions changes. If they give you money for an HSA or equivalent and you are on Tricare it changes as well
05-29-2020 | 03:41 AM
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What if the 777, DTW, MSP, and SLC 7ER closures is just a head fake to get the senior Captains to bite on an ERP? They publish the results, then offer an ERP. After a few hundred of them take the ERP to avoid commuting or training on the A350, and then in a few weeks they cancel the bid and do an AE that’s much more palatable. Would the timeline be too tight to pull that all off?
Denny
05-29-2020 | 03:42 AM
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I think most of the senior pilots are going to sit at home getting full pay and benefits waiting on training..Then the day of training they will retire.
05-29-2020 | 03:47 AM
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