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Der Meister 10-28-2020 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 3151031)
how about whoever owns the aircraft gets priority.

wellsfargo employees are going to be pumped about this.

theUpsideDown 10-28-2020 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3151113)
wellsfargo employees are going to be pumped about this.

A day of special significance indeed! Banking hours, and open Delta One seats.

Boy these id-jits opening their mouths just screwed my commute out of a major wells fargo town. O well, pos space on #2.

notEnuf 10-28-2020 06:35 AM

As if anyone has a choice in any of this...:rolleyes: I don't like the 10 items or less policy in the self checkout. When small coffee bags are on sale I'm discriminated against for not spending more money on the big bag!!! :mad:

Priority is completely at the discretion of the gate agent company. I do love a good cloud shout though. :eek:

Meow1215 10-28-2020 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Catboatsailor (Post 3151009)
Besides how many active 9E pilots have a DOH older than our retirees??? Correct me if I’m wrong S3A vs S3A is determined by DOH. Is this what they’re really arguing about?

Maybe 300, could be a little less.

WhiskeyKilo 10-28-2020 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 3151158)
Maybe 300, could be a little less.

It's a lot less than that.

Catboatsailor 10-28-2020 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Meow1215 (Post 3151158)
Maybe 300, could be a little less.

5400 daily departures to 300 plus destinations. These retired pilots are concerned about less than 300 active pilots who might travel on their flight???? GMAFB.

Varsity 10-28-2020 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Catboatsailor (Post 3151294)
5400 daily departures to 300 plus destinations. These retired pilots are concerned about less than 300 active pilots who might travel on their flight???? GMAFB.

Delta pilot entitlement is like a soviet submarine. Runs deep, but sure isn't silent.

Phins2right 10-28-2020 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Catboatsailor (Post 3151294)
5400 daily departures to 300 plus destinations. These retired pilots are concerned about less than 300 active pilots who might travel on their flight???? GMAFB.

So then by that logic, you should not care either. So many flights, so many opportunities for all. Why disparage?

An EDV pilot is not a Delta pilot. Just like an Sky West pilot is not a United Pilot. Just like a SWA Pilot is not a FedEx pilot.

EDV is contract labor. Nothing more. Entitles you to nothing at the other airline.

Follow your commuting clause for work - you'll be fine. For other non-rev, you should come in behind the Delta retire. Simple.

Catboatsailor 10-28-2020 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Phins2right (Post 3151313)
So then by that logic, you should not care either. So many flights, so many opportunities for all. Why disparage?

An EDV pilot is not a Delta pilot. Just like an Sky West pilot is not a United Pilot. Just like a SWA Pilot is not a FedEx pilot.

EDV is contract labor. Nothing more. Entitles you to nothing at the other airline.

Follow your commuting clause for work - you'll be fine. For other non-rev, you should come in behind the Delta retire. Simple.

apples to oranges. Skywest isn’t wholly owned by United. DAL Pilots are contractual pilots for Delta Air Lines Inc. 9E pilots are contractual pilots for Delta Air Lines Inc. Same payroll department, same fidelity 401k, same managers, etc. But different PWA’s. We’re just fortunate that our PWA has some control over their size and scope. But we are no different. In a managements ideal world every fleet would have a separate seniority list. They’ve somewhat achieved this with the regionals and JV’s.

Those retirees sold scope to better their careers. Now they complain that the red-headed stepchild, they helped create, is affecting them in retirement? I have zero sympathy. Our soon to be furloughed pilots could be flying those CRJ’s. Better than being on the street. But egos got in the way.

But the retirees need a scapegoat. The 300 employees at 9E make for a great boogie man. IMHO if it wasn’t in the PWA when they retired they’re complaints are meritless.

PilotBases 10-28-2020 03:41 PM

For reference, it’s not 300 at EDV that beat retirees, it’s any EDV employee (S3A v S3B). The 300 would be if retirees would be brought up to S3A, how many EDV employees would still be ahead of them.


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