S3A.....Again
10-28-2020 | 03:57 PM
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Exactly.....plus their "travel companion" Would love to get bumped by a 20something friend of an EDV pilot.....
10-28-2020 | 04:16 PM
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apples to oranges. Skywest isn’t wholly owned by United. DAL Pilots are contractual pilots for Delta Air Lines Inc. 9E pilots are contractual pilots for Delta Air Lines Inc. Same payroll department, same fidelity 401k, same managers, etc. But different PWA’s. We’re just fortunate that our PWA has some control over their size and scope. But we are no different. In a managements ideal world every fleet would have a separate seniority list. They’ve somewhat achieved this with the regionals and JV’s.
Those retirees sold scope to better their careers. Now they complain that the red-headed stepchild, they helped create, is affecting them in retirement? I have zero sympathy. Our soon to be furloughed pilots could be flying those CRJ’s. Better than being on the street. But egos got in the way.
But the retirees need a scapegoat. The 300 employees at 9E make for a great boogie man. IMHO if it wasn’t in the PWA when they retired they’re complaints are meritless.
Those retirees sold scope to better their careers. Now they complain that the red-headed stepchild, they helped create, is affecting them in retirement? I have zero sympathy. Our soon to be furloughed pilots could be flying those CRJ’s. Better than being on the street. But egos got in the way.
But the retirees need a scapegoat. The 300 employees at 9E make for a great boogie man. IMHO if it wasn’t in the PWA when they retired they’re complaints are meritless.
EDV non-rev go behind delta retire. If you are active EDV employee and need to get to work, then use your commuter clause. Simple.
10-28-2020 | 04:23 PM
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1) endeavor and delta are both part of the same company, OO and United are two completely different companies, same with WN and FDX. Endeavor is part of the same company we are, we are just different subsidiaries.
2) the reason they changed it was because retirees were bumping active employees trying to get to work and delta was spending $$$ to buy active employees a seat so retirees could travel. (like it or not from delta’s perspective endeavor are active employees as they are employed by Delta inc to fly planes for delta) They will not go back to that. Just from a business sense it makes mores sense to have 9E above DL retirees, and I doubt we will be willing to give up any negotiating capital to change that. If you still work here and want it fixed, focus on section 1 of our PWA
10-28-2020 | 04:38 PM
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My ID and paycheck both say Delta. What subsidiary do I work for?
10-28-2020 | 05:05 PM
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10-28-2020 | 05:23 PM
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You do understand what “Division” means in the corporate sense? So what division does a Delta pilot work for? And what division does an Endeavor pilot work for? And please support your answer with facts.
10-28-2020 | 05:24 PM
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