S3A.....Again
#61
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You haven’t answered the question. What “division” of Delta do I work for?
You do understand what “Division” means in the corporate sense? So what division does a Delta pilot work for? And what division does an Endeavor pilot work for? And please support your answer with facts.
You do understand what “Division” means in the corporate sense? So what division does a Delta pilot work for? And what division does an Endeavor pilot work for? And please support your answer with facts.
Delta air lines and Endeavor air are both part of Delta air lines inc.
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If someone works for DGS their ID and paycheck says ... you guessed it.
If Delta decided to buy SkyChefs tomorrow and kept them as a separate entity, would they be Delta employees?
What are you saying, exactly?
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I guess the easy way to put my point is by virtue of Delta owning endeavor, we do in fact fall under the same umbrella. Unlike skywest and republic that are independent companies, endeavor is under the same umbrella as us.
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my point was that we both work for the same company, delta air lines inc. by virtue of them being employees of endeavor, which is a wholly owned subsidiary, that would mean we both work under the same company. Not that they are delta or we are endeavor, but that our overall company, Delta it lines inc., is who both of our bottom lines support.
I guess the easy way to put my point is by virtue of Delta owning endeavor, we do in fact fall under the same umbrella. Unlike skywest and republic that are independent companies, endeavor is under the same umbrella as us.
I guess the easy way to put my point is by virtue of Delta owning endeavor, we do in fact fall under the same umbrella. Unlike skywest and republic that are independent companies, endeavor is under the same umbrella as us.
But when it comes to Delta metal, people who’ve devoted their careers to Delta should have a higher priority than people who have never worked for Delta.
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Well. I’d agree that Endeavor employees should get higher priority on Delta metal by virtue of that fact. Certainly higher than a non-wholly-owned.
But when it comes to Delta metal, people who’ve devoted their careers to Delta should have a higher priority than people who have never worked for Delta.
But when it comes to Delta metal, people who’ve devoted their careers to Delta should have a higher priority than people who have never worked for Delta.
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The problem lies in the fact that by bumping endeavor down in priority we create a tangible cost to delta because they have to spend more money buying people off oversold flights or the operation of endeavor (carrying DL pax and generating revenue for our PS check whenever they come back) suffers. This is not a 0 cost item to delta and will require negotiation capital to change. I personally would rather we focus that negotiation capital on issues that affect current DL pilots or tangible monetary benefits for retirees (like improvements to retiree medical). if this is truly a huge issue let’s address it in section 1 of our contract.
I don't get it. If you have to commute to work, pretty sure you have a commuter clause in your contract. We do.
It's simple, follow it if you are going to work. You're covered. Otherwise I don't get what you are trying to push here.
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If you are non-reving - not for work - what diff does it make, no one is buying anyone off. Your priority should not be higher than a delta employee, present or retired.
I don't get it. If you have to commute to work, pretty sure you have a commuter clause in your contract. We do.
It's simple, follow it if you are going to work. You're covered. Otherwise I don't get what you are trying to push here.
I don't get it. If you have to commute to work, pretty sure you have a commuter clause in your contract. We do.
It's simple, follow it if you are going to work. You're covered. Otherwise I don't get what you are trying to push here.
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my point was that we both work for the same company, delta air lines inc. by virtue of them being employees of endeavor, which is a wholly owned subsidiary, that would mean we both work under the same company. Not that they are delta or we are endeavor, but that our overall company, Delta it lines inc., is who both of our bottom lines support.
I guess the easy way to put my point is by virtue of Delta owning endeavor, we do in fact fall under the same umbrella. Unlike skywest and republic that are independent companies, endeavor is under the same umbrella as us.
I guess the easy way to put my point is by virtue of Delta owning endeavor, we do in fact fall under the same umbrella. Unlike skywest and republic that are independent companies, endeavor is under the same umbrella as us.
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