boog123

My bride makes 9.50 hourly at her restaurant plus usually another 40-50 hourly in tips. Despite the bravado, won’t change a thing except food will be more expensive.

Viking busdvr

Along with everything else.....

Gunfighter

If only there were a way to benefit from inflation.

#SideHustle

GogglesPisano

Are you talking to the right guy? I stated this will never happen.

EDVPLT

Anyone hearing if we still can expect the memo from Bob today about the upcoming AE?

NeverFlexTO

There was a mention on Skynet it could be out as early as today (3/2/21)

bronco21016

Does anyone have a good handle on, or a good reference, about how the already returned affected pilots will bid here?

I’ve seen the discussion that we’re considered active for subsequent AEs and will bid before other affected pilots are proffered positions.

Is that true if training and/or conversion hasn’t occurred yet?

Also, what is the minimum timeline to start training? 30 days per LOA 20-04? Something else?

To me it’s unclear what position we’re in. Am I UNA or affected pilot? Certainly not A220B (active) yet because I haven’t even been assigned training.

Just trying to make sense of all of the information regarding this posted earlier.

NeverFlexTO

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You'll bid just like any other AE, but I'm trying to figure out have you actually started training yet? Are you part of the 1700+? If you are and haven't started training your not considered active until day 1 of training or a pilot junior to your converts, which per LOA 20-04 wouldn't happen persay because pilots will go to training in seniority order in their specific category.

If you are part of the 1700+, you aren't active until you show up to training.
Affected = Not shown up to training
Active = Shown up to training

If you are not part of the 1700+ you are active and you will bid on the AE like any other pilot. Active pilots get preference before affected.

See Above

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30 days from award so March 5th for latest AE, nothing contractual that says the company has to give you XYZ amount of days of notification after the 30 days from the award. They can proffer you inside that 30 days from award but it is rare. I'd check iCrew every other day for a training notification. Subsequently it seems right now the company is giving affected pilots. about 2 weeks notice of training

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Don't think of UNA anymore...It was a place holder for pay, you are either Active or Affected


​​​​​​​It's a charlie foxtrot but hope this helps...

bronco21016

Charlie Foxtrot indeed....

I'm in the 1,700 affected pilots. I was awarded A220 on the last bid but haven't started training yet.

So I suppose I'm still "affected"? So this should mean that earliest training from the upcoming AE would be 30 days from posting? Also, if I'm still "affected" then I bid open positions with all other affected pilots being proffered positions and won't incur a seat lock afterwards? Meaning, I accepted proffer of A220, remain "affected" for this bid, bid A320 (for example), once converting to A320 I still do not have a seat lock?

I'm starting to think I royally screwed up. I booked a vacation in early April after I received my projected training of May. This could prove a costly mistake.

tennisguru

I really don't think that many people are going to be negatively affected by how they process the affected pilots' bids. Bringing everyone back means posting ~1300 B positions, which is a huge number. More than likely those positions will be spread all over the system and across the 717, 220, 73N, and 320 categories. Very few people senior to the affected pilots will have been locked out of any of those positions, so other than a select few categories (SEA 73N, ATL 320, etc) I think positions will be available all over. That means that even though the 1700 (minus any of those who have started training) will be bidding behind all active pilots basically they be bidding in seniority order with the outcome extremely similar to if the AE had been processed with the entire pilot group together.

In other words, the processing will be Active, then affected, but the results will be nearly the same no matter how it's run.