Because data shows pilot picketing during a pandemic is very effective.

 

Are the FAs talking about me again?

These are the jokes folks... I'll see myself out.

 

Yeah it is. Everything is for sale. The fact that you don't acknowledge that means you know nothing of negotiations. If they offered a $500,000 bonus for those 35 RJs you gonna tell me you wouldn't take it?

 

Half the ASK's and half the BH's. And half is half. Any dip below must be made up in the next period by a rise above. Can't blame on compliance on the other airlines either; if they're not in compliance, pull the code until they are.

 

Except the fact that would cost the company $6 billion + by napkin math for everyone on the SL. I would assume that most people say scope isn’t for sale because the company isn’t willing to pay the price it would cost for most. But you are correct, everything is on the table in negotiations, but I would again submit it would have to be a huge deal for most to even consider it.

 

Exactly this. Bond would love us to roll over and hand the company a win.

Negotiations involve two parties willing to work together towards an agreement in good faith. Very clear based on how Section 6 negotiations went and how they are trying to back door these 35 RJs that the company isn’t willing to negotiate in good faith, and doesn’t value our asset (scope) the same way we do.

Therefore our asset is not for sale.

 

Straw Man theoretical aside, I would vote no on that.

Everything is not for sale. The high theory of "well if they gave us a billion dollars for more RJ's..." [actually your example is about 6.5B] yadda yadda is just silly. They can't and they won't, and if they offered something eye watering in exchange for a core tenant of our contract then I would suspect a trap long before I ever mentally pre-spent the money.

How about the top 49% of the list gets stapled to the bottom in inverse seniority order in exchange for positive space commuting, guaranteed 4-5 star hotels (with points!), an 8/3/3 with a targeted $200K signing bonus only for the 51% and an extra week of vacation only for the 51%? Everything is for sale, right?

While I get the gist of your argument over all, its that prevailing philosophy that I take issue with; especially the hyperbolic theoreticals that philosophy is often rife with. They will never make us filthy rich in exchange for a small concession. Ever. We will never even get all the value of an apparently small concession.

Are more large RJ's "for sale"?

No.

Oh come on, theoretically, right? Like Indecent Proposal, right?

OK we'll play along. Sure LOL.

Great how much?

You can't afford it.

Roll credits.

 

Exactly. Scope is for sale depending on the price. A potential good deal could be in exchange for the 35 RJs, park every 50 seater and generate a new block hour ratio formula similar to C2012 and the 717s except this time include the 220s on order. This will probably cue some folks screaming the 50 seaters are going away anyway but that was said in 2016 and here we are 5 years later and the 50 seaters are still in abundance.

Scope Choke... Instead of swinging for the moon and proposing full sweep, economically unviable measures like bring Endeavor pilots into mainline or have Delta fly the 35 RJs, we should propose a plan that gradually reduces the overall footprint of DCI while growing SNB mainline jets.

Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

 

The economics of 50seat jets is a thing of the past. The only thing that is keeping them around at the moment is that they can't have more larger RJ's and that they are inexpensive to buy/lease. I have no doubt the market will remove them from the property with out our help or anything we "sell".

 

Really? Show me where I said anything about rolling over for the company. You can't handle the truth Chief. It is much more sexy to proclaim that you won't give on anything and act like Billie BadAss and that you will fold your arms until you get what you want. The world doesn't work that way. The company will get something. Hopefully that will be minimized, but if you think for one second they give everything to us then you just got the dumbs.