This Letter of Agreement is made and entered into under the provisions of the Railway Labor Act, as amended, between Delta Air Lines, Inc. ( “Delta”) and the Air Line Pilots Association, International (the “Association”) and Compass Airlines, Inc. (“Compass”)and the Association.

 

I would like to point out that under the scope section there is a relief that allows for "another carrier," So pointing this is a 4 part deal really is not correct. Delta wants LOA # 9 to live, so they took "another carrier", and made the pilot group whole again.

 

so you think delta can arbitrarily let it cease to exist for over a year, then all the sudden decide to reinstate it?

 

For starters, LOA 9 has no language about 76-seaters. That language resides only in the Delta PWA.


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Once Compass was closed that provision ceased to be available triggering the reduction. This is not in dispute. Delta even tried to argue the reduction could be in block hours and not actual airframes. We are still waiting on arbitration on that claim. The company said they were in compliance because of the compass closure and the RJs were removed when in fact they weren't. They then claimed flight time was removed. Either way they intended to comply with the 35 jet reduction evidenced by their memo stating they were in compliance. Once removed, there is no mechanism for a new agreement other than a 4 party LOA for whatever terms we negotiate. LOA 9 was proof itself of the need to renegotiate because it was the mechanism to continue the flow for 35 jets after Trans States purchased Compass. Trans States would not have made the purchase if the jets and flying were subject to cancelation. One could argue it was a 5 party deal. Management could have done that again when LOA 9 died but it would be a new agreement with new parties. There is no provision for unilateral substitution after the fact without agreement.

 

Ironic. Look at the post (931) directly before yours. LOA#9 was very specifically between Delta Air Lines, Inc. ( “Delta”) and the Air Line Pilots Association, International (the “Association”) and Compass Airlines, Inc. (“Compass”)and the Association. 4 parties indeed.

No “other carriers” involved. That’s not how contact language works. Section 1 of our PWA has very specific exceptions to the primary fact in 1.C.1 that all Delta flying will be done by Delta pilots. It’s not just a blanket “another carrier” like you seem to suggest.

Besides, there are no scope discussions in LOA#9. That is the controlling document here.

Why are you so desperate to take Management’s side? Serious question.

 

Someone, cough cough, very much wants the flow to continue to their seniority.

 

I mean we can all sit around and pat ourselves on the back and say " we got them", or we can point out the weaknesses. I sure you that Delta has a legal team that spends big bucks going over this. Why are you guys so sure that this is a clear cut win for dalpa?

I feel that dalpa might win the violation, but an arbitrator might point to the fact that this deal was signed before in good faith so this deal will press on with Endeavor. The harm is now made whole. Delta needs these planes to recover, they are not profitable! By grounding these good money makers will shunt the airline and really profits. I would think delta pilots would almost agree to this. Since negotiations most likely are not going on, kicking this down the road might be in everyone best interest. If profits are made faster, section 6 negotiations can resume quicker.

 

My hair is dyed purple already. Just love talking out contracts with people whom I don't know.

 

So why are edv pilots doing delta flying but not employed by delta and considered delta pilots??