35 Large RJs coming back?
05-18-2021 | 04:02 PM
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It would (and does) HAVE to have a flow down to satisfy LOA9? I mean that LOA does not exist to protect career progression of DCI pilots, it exists to protect flow down rights of mainline pilots.
I agree with you on your last point, I’m all for improved career progression for DCI pilots, but not at the expense of SCOPE.
on a separate note, any idea how this will work? Will 9E pilots with double no’s and/or no degree be able to flow? Will they be able to apply outside the flow? Genuinely curious if anyone at EDV has details on this.
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I agree with you on your last point, I’m all for improved career progression for DCI pilots, but not at the expense of SCOPE.
on a separate note, any idea how this will work? Will 9E pilots with double no’s and/or no degree be able to flow? Will they be able to apply outside the flow? Genuinely curious if anyone at EDV has details on this.
edited for clarity
05-18-2021 | 04:13 PM
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I have to hand it to DL management. They found a way to bait 9E with concessions for what they’ve always wanted, flow. At the same time found a loophole around scope. As I previously stated, DALPA better respond to this appropriately.
05-18-2021 | 04:23 PM
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I don't think there was any collision between 9E pilots and Delta. Based on the fact that "negotiations" lasted less than a week it seems like 9E was basically had a deal put in front of them and probably told if you say no we'll just go to skywest or republic and you get nothing
05-18-2021 | 04:36 PM
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Right...none of this makes sense to me. For a flow agreement, they get 35 more RJs....how is that a good deal for us?
05-18-2021 | 04:36 PM
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what svfr said... We had been in negotiations for years and were supposed to get a deal last year before covid struck. Looks like DL found a way to kill two birds with one stone and threw this at us. Our mec has a responsibility to see it through, and were very clear in their email that the Dalpa position may undo it. Which is why we have an out built in if loa 9 doesn't get fixed. Though since none of us have actually seen the language yet let's wait and see
05-18-2021 | 04:46 PM
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05-18-2021 | 04:50 PM
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So the first several hundred flows will all be the senior and bitter captains that got the TBNT from delta years ago? Oh to be a fly on the wall during those new hire classes...
05-18-2021 | 04:52 PM
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It is funny that some people view being the PM for the rest of the trip as "punishment." LOL, I'll be the PM the rest of my career, it all pays the same. I do fun flying when I'm not at work. As long as it's not going to put us in the bad gas state or damage the aircraft, second guessing how others fly may be best left for beer talk on the overnight.
Right...none of this makes sense to me. For a flow agreement, they get 35 more RJs....how is that a good deal for us?
Right...none of this makes sense to me. For a flow agreement, they get 35 more RJs....how is that a good deal for us?
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