My question still stands. How is any of this good for DAL pilots?

 

Maybe you're not on the same plane as Goggles, but what he said FOs were doing is well outside of the window of "technique." And yes, if your reaction to the captain saying that its ok to retract flaps when they aren't needed is to intentionally fly around with flaps out, you're probably in for some extra training. It's not a military thing, it's a basic professionalism thing.

 

Yeah, screw this. Our MEC better be all over this piece of garbage.

 

Here a theory...

Delta adds 35 large RJs, tells DALPA to pound sand, then loses in arbitration. It’s a replay of the A350 delivery plan. Their objective is getting additional capacity that provides immediate relief for a self induced staffing problem. By the time they lose in arbitration, the staffing crisis is well on the way to resolution.

How long can they fly the RJs before losing in arbitration?

 

I'm gonna throw this out here and take it as you will.

Please don't hold this against Endeavor pilots. I can promise you that your management most certainly put a deal on the table and there was little "negotiating" from our MEC. We have zero power to tell DL how it is so I highly doubt we influenced much.

None of the 9E group wants to take away from your scope and all of you are exactly right, we won't get a single new plane from this deal. It's possible some of our parked 900s may come back but we all know 170/175s will go to Skywest and Republic.

If you ask me, I'd rather just fly a 200 on property at Delta until the opportunity to move up to a different fleet was available.

And just for perspective, I'm a Captain at 9E that was weeks away from my DL interview pre-covid. My "flow" would be 2-3 years at best. Not something I want to sit around and wait for.

 

1.M. says max 60 days from grievance to arbitration and 90 days from grievance to decision. In reality thats not a hard deadline, but a decision should be out in a matter of a few months. The grievance can probably be filed when they officially announce/schedule the additional RJs instead of waiting for them to enter service.

 

and i think most of the delta pilots want the endeavor pilots on the delta seniority list and all the RJs operated by delta pilots.

 

What tunes meant, and what wouldn’t have to be said if it weren’t for people like you, is that scope isn’t for sale for any price Delta is willing to pay.

 

Unless you are 20+ miles out flaps 5 240kts is not that inefficient and retracting the flaps in the approach environment on a slick wing plane like the 73 doesn't sound optimal. All this does fall into the realm of technique and is trivial. Enough that I wouldnt say anything unless it was absurd like 40 miles out.

Since we are on the topic of inefficiency, verbally verifying the WDR when both pilots clearly can read it silently and independently is what I call terribly inefficient

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Answer* It’s not. But we do get flow back yippee. Except in reality management would just liquidate them and then furlough us anyways during the next downturn.

Side note- As a former 9E, I implore them to realize that any Scope losses at Delta are very bad. Most people I know there are more than capable of passing the DGI that now exists. Seriously, I spent 4 years at 9E and plan to spend 34 at Delta. If you’re reading this as an Endeavor pilot, ask yourself “Do I want to flow after a longer wait to be a Delta pilot where there’s less flying done by mainline. Or do I want to interview, succeed and then get hired wayyy sooner as a Delta pilot with more flying done in house?”