35 Large RJs coming back?
05-13-2021 | 09:07 AM
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The regional expense is less on the line item because many expenses that were part of that (slots, landing fees, salaries etc.) are now accounted for elsewhere. This means the regionals look cheaper than they were to outsource. Perception only effect because the expenses are still incurred but are not included in regional expenses.
Yep - the landing fees charged for the Regional jets shouldn't count as an expense item for the Regionals because ______________________ (insert your answer here).
As a matter of fact why should Delta Pilot salaries count as an expense against Delta? In this brave new world of:
"...This reclassification better reflects the nature of, and how management views, these regional carrier related expenses. "
Its all good. After all its how management "views" things that count.
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05-13-2021 | 09:17 AM
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i think the union’s counter argument will revolve around section 1. e. ......In such event (partial or complete divestiture of Compass) Delta, Compass, and the Association will meet and confer for the purpose of discussing whether continuation or modification of this LOA would be appropriate given the circumstances at that time. Any continuation or modification will require the agreement of Delta, Compass, and the Association.
it’s seems to me obvious that the company cannot simply substitute EndeavorAir for Compass without our consent. I also think this would need to go to the membership for a vote.
I think we all need to realize that we just gained back bottom end scope. Giving that up is not a very palatable option and will cost a lot. Let’s get a list going for what is the price are we willing to sell 35RJs of scope.
Mine starts with
1) much improved international scope
and
2) profit sharing formula back to 2012 formula or better
it’s seems to me obvious that the company cannot simply substitute EndeavorAir for Compass without our consent. I also think this would need to go to the membership for a vote.
I think we all need to realize that we just gained back bottom end scope. Giving that up is not a very palatable option and will cost a lot. Let’s get a list going for what is the price are we willing to sell 35RJs of scope.
Mine starts with
1) much improved international scope
and
2) profit sharing formula back to 2012 formula or better
Seems unlikely an arbitrator would allow DAPLA to walk back any comments or notes made when Compass was sold just to add equity to their current Section6 negotiations.
05-13-2021 | 09:54 AM
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The interpretations will be interesting to see if Delta could successfully execute a Compass-like agreement that is PWA compliant without DAL ALPAs concurrence. Hopefully ALPA fights back to keep the 35 RJs from flying since IMO a flow down doesn’t provide any value for junior Delta pilots job security. If we have another similar industry downturn in the future, 20 pilots per month flowing down to a regional would have taken over 10 years to cover the 2500 original WARN notices. Nearly all of furloughed pilots would have had to find some other way to put food on the table in the meantime.
05-13-2021 | 10:14 AM
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Has a single mainline pilot ever been flowed to a regional? The flow is as one way as a waterfall. It is useless and will never protect.
05-13-2021 | 10:16 AM
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05-13-2021 | 11:50 AM
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Your company is still on Cares 3.0 payroll protection for at least the next 7 paychecks.
It’s a crap deal because the government will have protected 32 paychecks, and DALPA will need to keep spending negotiating capital on furlough mitigation so you can keep not utilizing this deal.
At some point it’s likely DALPA will quit spending capital on furlough mitigation each contract cycle, and bank the savings.
I am sure DAL would be open to a different agreement if it was cost neutral.
Sounds like many are just upset they cannot sell the same scope to the same company twice.
05-13-2021 | 11:55 AM
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US Airways pilots flowed to several regionals.
Your company is still on Cares 3.0 payroll protection for at least the next 7 paychecks.
It’s a crap deal because the government will have protected 32 paychecks, and DALPA will need to keep spending negotiating capital on furlough mitigation so you can keep not utilizing this deal.
At some point it’s likely DALPA will quit spending capital on furlough mitigation each contract cycle, and bank the savings.
Your company is still on Cares 3.0 payroll protection for at least the next 7 paychecks.
It’s a crap deal because the government will have protected 32 paychecks, and DALPA will need to keep spending negotiating capital on furlough mitigation so you can keep not utilizing this deal.
At some point it’s likely DALPA will quit spending capital on furlough mitigation each contract cycle, and bank the savings.
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