35 Large RJs coming back?
05-27-2021 | 07:10 PM
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The ambiguity around the word ceased would have been a more compelling argument if the company did not agree that the flow down ceased. They agreed to that by agreeing to park the 35 aircraft. They are now attempting to reactivate those aircraft by replacing Compass unilaterally.
Past practices on this LOA would also seem to point to needing DALPA at the table. That’s indicated by this LOAs very existence being required after the Compass sale to Trans States.
The company’s mountain isn’t insurmountable but it’s a difficult climb.
Past practices on this LOA would also seem to point to needing DALPA at the table. That’s indicated by this LOAs very existence being required after the Compass sale to Trans States.
The company’s mountain isn’t insurmountable but it’s a difficult climb.
05-27-2021 | 07:26 PM
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I agree. Just pointing out none of us know how this will play out. We all pick keys words that we believe make the case, but it’s really anybody’s guess.
05-27-2021 | 08:28 PM
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I’m interested to see the timeline for this. I don’t think Delta gives a rip as long as they can drag this out until October 1. It’s a band aid to put on their mistakes for the summer IMO.
05-28-2021 | 03:14 AM
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Here's where the discussion needs to center:
Exception two: In the event the hiring or flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 or LOA #9 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft in Section 1 B. 5 47. e. will be reduced by 35.
Does "at another carrier" mean Delta can cut and paste any other carrier into the current LOA or does a new LOA need to be produced for said "other carrier"
IMO(non lawyer) since Delta Management negotiated a completely different flow deal with Endeavor's MEC and simply didn't cut and paste the LOA #9 language a completely new LOA with the Delta MEC has to be agreed upon to satisfy Exception two
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Exception two: In the event the hiring or flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 or LOA #9 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft in Section 1 B. 5 47. e. will be reduced by 35.
Does "at another carrier" mean Delta can cut and paste any other carrier into the current LOA or does a new LOA need to be produced for said "other carrier"
IMO(non lawyer) since Delta Management negotiated a completely different flow deal with Endeavor's MEC and simply didn't cut and paste the LOA #9 language a completely new LOA with the Delta MEC has to be agreed upon to satisfy Exception two
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05-28-2021 | 03:16 AM
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But I think ALPA is also pushing this fast and hard into expedited arbitration per the PWA, maybe for this exact reason. This will be heard and decided before 1 Oct I believe.
05-28-2021 | 03:24 AM
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Here's where the discussion needs to center:
Exception two: In the event the hiring or flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 or LOA #9 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft in Section 1 B. 5 47. e. will be reduced by 35.
Does "at another carrier" mean Delta can cut and paste any other carrier into the current LOA or does a new LOA need to be produced for said "other carrier"
IMO(non lawyer) since Delta Management negotiated a completely different flow deal with Endeavor's MEC and simply didn't cut and paste the LOA #9 language a completely new LOA with the Delta MEC has to be agreed upon to satisfy Exception two
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Exception two: In the event the hiring or flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 or LOA #9 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft in Section 1 B. 5 47. e. will be reduced by 35.
Does "at another carrier" mean Delta can cut and paste any other carrier into the current LOA or does a new LOA need to be produced for said "other carrier"
IMO(non lawyer) since Delta Management negotiated a completely different flow deal with Endeavor's MEC and simply didn't cut and paste the LOA #9 language a completely new LOA with the Delta MEC has to be agreed upon to satisfy Exception two
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Its going to come down to negotiating notes that are locked in a safe somewhere.
05-28-2021 | 03:28 AM
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05-28-2021 | 03:42 AM
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The ambiguity around the word ceased would have been a more compelling argument if the company did not agree that the flow down ceased. They agreed to that by agreeing to park the 35 aircraft. They are now attempting to reactivate those aircraft by replacing Compass unilaterally.
Past practices on this LOA would also seem to point to needing DALPA at the table. That’s indicated by this LOAs very existence being required after the Compass sale to Trans States.
The company’s mountain isn’t insurmountable but it’s a difficult climb.
Past practices on this LOA would also seem to point to needing DALPA at the table. That’s indicated by this LOAs very existence being required after the Compass sale to Trans States.
The company’s mountain isn’t insurmountable but it’s a difficult climb.
05-28-2021 | 04:22 AM
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LOA 9 applies to the sale of Compass, and Compass no long being an affiliate carrier. Not "another carrier." The entire LOA has Compass specific language for the Compass specific remedy required by exception 2.
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