35 Large RJs coming back?
07-16-2021 | 12:55 PM
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07-16-2021 | 02:13 PM
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Let's take the exchange for scope out of this conversation for a second. Positive space commuting doesn't have to be an "us vs them" topic. As a non-commuter, I would 100% back up positive space commuting. I like to know that my fellow pilot isn't stressing about making it home to their kids t-ball game or even make it home that night. People may choose to commute out of base and impact me in a positive way or choose to come to my base which and hurt my seniority lol. Bottom line, positive space commuting would be a big win. Who knows I may move out of base down the road and it could end up being a great benefit for me too. Sometimes being a part of a union means you go along with things that good for all, not just you. Again, I'm not talking about exchanging this for scope.
07-16-2021 | 02:57 PM
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Let's take the exchange for scope out of this conversation for a second. Positive space commuting doesn't have to be an "us vs them" topic. As a non-commuter, I would 100% back up positive space commuting. I like to know that my fellow pilot isn't stressing about making it home to their kids t-ball game or even make it home that night. People may choose to commute out of base and impact me in a positive way or choose to come to my base which and hurt my seniority lol. Bottom line, positive space commuting would be a big win. Who knows I may move out of base down the road and it could end up being a great benefit for me too. Sometimes being a part of a union means you go along with things that good for all, not just you. Again, I'm not talking about exchanging this for scope.
07-16-2021 | 03:01 PM
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Are some of you saying the 35 RJs are non negotiable? Since these RJs (CRJ900s and/or E175s) are fairly new and have been flying in the system since the arrival of the 717 if DALPA wins the arbitration I think the company would be willing to pay a pretty penny to bring them back instead of burn $100s of millions in aircraft expense.
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only thing that would sway me to allow those 35 RJs back is better JV scope, starting with a minimum 50% of JV ASMs flown by delta seniority list pilots.
07-16-2021 | 03:31 PM
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plenty of ~15 year old 76 seat RJs in our DCI fleet. At the moment they have headroom in the 70 seat category so they could just pull 6 seats out and keep flying some/most/all of them.
only thing that would sway me to allow those 35 RJs back is better JV scope, starting witha minimum 50% of JV ASMs 50% ASM baseline, plus remainder of flying to be proportional to company ownership (DAL owns 49% of company X means 50% of ASM as baseline, plus 49% of the remaining ASM, for a total of 74.5% of ASM) flown by delta seniority list pilots.
only thing that would sway me to allow those 35 RJs back is better JV scope, starting with
Fixed it for you. This, plus 2:1 catch-up for any quarter where DAL fails the balance. So if the company shorts us 5% of ASM over a quarter, the next quarter’s percentage for DAL pilots is increased by 10%.
07-16-2021 | 03:35 PM
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Are some of you saying the 35 RJs are non negotiable? Since these RJs (CRJ900s and/or E175s) are fairly new and have been flying in the system since the arrival of the 717 if DALPA wins the arbitration I think the company would be willing to pay a pretty penny to bring them back instead of burn $100s of millions in aircraft expense.
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What's worse is the company's attitude that they can add or remove the flow back and 35 RJs as it suits them.
07-16-2021 | 04:35 PM
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id be down for that. I’m thinking of it more one bite at a time. but I think the first step is making sure we are doing AT LEAST half the JV ASMs for each respective JV. Ownership caveats would be great as well.
07-16-2021 | 08:11 PM
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Let's take the exchange for scope out of this conversation for a second. Positive space commuting doesn't have to be an "us vs them" topic. As a non-commuter, I would 100% back up positive space commuting. I like to know that my fellow pilot isn't stressing about making it home to their kids t-ball game or even make it home that night. People may choose to commute out of base and impact me in a positive way or choose to come to my base which and hurt my seniority lol. Bottom line, positive space commuting would be a big win. Who knows I may move out of base down the road and it could end up being a great benefit for me too. Sometimes being a part of a union means you go along with things that good for all, not just you. Again, I'm not talking about exchanging this for scope.
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