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Old 01-22-2023, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
There are over 15,000 today. With 500 retirements this year, it will be approaching 17,000 this time next year.

The increase in headcount is partially due to previous plans, partially due to another 700 pilots required by C19.
something tells me co is waiting to see our vote. What’s in that TA that doesn’t require ~2400 pilots in 2023? That’s the question. Previous publish by ops was ~200/mth through around may (summer hiring), then drop to ~100/month rest of year. That’s around the 1700 number, but no one has put out a jobs required list since then. Something tells me the company is hoping we sign the TA and drop hiring requirement but time will tell. Reading the TA over next week to try and decipher why this is not public yet. Union says TA adds 700 jobs but that was just bullet points on pre-TA hopes and dreams…

edit: last time this happened in 2015 summer and it screwed a lot of new hires from “class in 1 month” to class actually in “9 months”. Different situation, but still seems to indicate company awaiting signing of MEMRAT
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Old 01-23-2023, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by palooza View Post
something tells me co is waiting to see our vote. What’s in that TA that doesn’t require ~2400 pilots in 2023? That’s the question. Previous publish by ops was ~200/mth through around may (summer hiring), then drop to ~100/month rest of year. That’s around the 1700 number, but no one has put out a jobs required list since then. Something tells me the company is hoping we sign the TA and drop hiring requirement but time will tell. Reading the TA over next week to try and decipher why this is not public yet. Union says TA adds 700 jobs but that was just bullet points on pre-TA hopes and dreams…

edit: last time this happened in 2015 summer and it screwed a lot of new hires from “class in 1 month” to class actually in “9 months”. Different situation, but still seems to indicate company awaiting signing of MEMRAT
The new hire thread isn't probably the best post to make stuff up in.
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Old 01-23-2023, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RickyDicky View Post
Do you know/Can find out what was the plug?
I was told that plug was NYC220B and last widebody was 6 from the bottom of the class.
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Old 01-23-2023, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RickyDicky View Post
Do you know/Can find out what was the plug?

NEWB questions…

what is a plug?

Also, in general if one is a Florida commuter, is it better from a commuting point of view to bid WB as a new hire assuming having specific days (ie weekends and holidays) is not important. I was looking at the trips and it looks like most of the WB trips a very commutable on both ends.

Also, for those Newer Hires flying WB do you see many opportunities to pick up GS and maximize credit compared to your NB counterparts?
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Old 01-23-2023, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
The new hire thread isn't probably the best post to make stuff up in.
fair…but it’s a prognostication thread just like any other. Noted. Just tossing out some reality. It can change on a whim and I’m merely saying c15 affected many new hires, so there’s that. Likely it passes anyways so no bother I guess but it’ll be fine interesting to see how hiring number are actually changed with pass/fail.
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Old 01-23-2023, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyer166 View Post
Yes, There is a 1/31 Class Whatsapp group. You can find it on the Facebook Delta New Hire Page. I also sent you a private message.
Also interested in joining the Whatsapp but I don't have FB, can you PM me as well? I can't send PMs yet.
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Old 01-23-2023, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FreightDog140 View Post
NEWB questions…

what is a plug?

Also, in general if one is a Florida commuter, is it better from a commuting point of view to bid WB as a new hire assuming having specific days (ie weekends and holidays) is not important. I was looking at the trips and it looks like most of the WB trips a very commutable on both ends.

Also, for those Newer Hires flying WB do you see many opportunities to pick up GS and maximize credit compared to your NB counterparts?
Plug = most junior person in a class.

WB will be significantly more commutable than any NB. As you alluded to you will be very junior on the WB so working most/every weekend and holiday. Although if you end up with a line you'll generally be able to get at least one weekend off a month, if not more just depending on how the trips work out on your schedule.

Current WB pilots would have a better gauge of how GS opportunities are.
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Old 01-23-2023, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FreightDog140 View Post
NEWB questions…

what is a plug?

Also, in general if one is a Florida commuter, is it better from a commuting point of view to bid WB as a new hire assuming having specific days (ie weekends and holidays) is not important. I was looking at the trips and it looks like most of the WB trips a very commutable on both ends.

Also, for those Newer Hires flying WB do you see many opportunities to pick up GS and maximize credit compared to your NB counterparts?
plug is the most junior person in a category or class.

WB is more commutable than NB in general. Right now people in their first year are moving up the seniority list fast on the 765 in NYC. That will most likely slow at some point. GS generally are most available in categories that are most understaffed. Probably NYC anything will be fine for GS.
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Old 01-23-2023, 01:29 PM
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Are the AC slots for 24JAN class coming from most recent AE or the October AE?
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:06 PM
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Are the AC slots for 24JAN class coming from most recent AE or the October AE?
they will be from the most recent ae
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