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Old 02-11-2025 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyler
Would someone who has been through training recently let us know what theyre doing with the wing ceremony as the museum is under construction? Obviously a lot of us want to get a picture in the tunnel.
I had mine at the 747. Bring a jacket for your spouse….
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Old 02-11-2025 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyler
Would someone who has been through training recently let us know what theyre doing with the wing ceremony as the museum is under construction? Obviously a lot of us want to get a picture in the tunnel.
At the 747
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Old 02-11-2025 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Guac
Damn I forgot about that! Good ol' FAA for ya. Perfectly fine on other aircraft, but not the NEO.
Delta has brand new neo’s being delivered right to the desert sitting there… whoever is in charge of that project is a genius
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Old 02-12-2025 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by saltbae
the neo sliding doors were not approved for Delta One.. they can’t do Hawai’i in the winter, long live the 757
the NEO can handle Hawaii just fine in the winter.
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Old 02-12-2025 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Avgeek7248
the NEO can handle Hawaii just fine in the winter.
I just checked and the 757s are running the thinner routes out to hawai'i right now from LA and Seattle. Why is that? Is it because the 757 holds more people, makes better profit, or has better performance than the 321neos? I rode on an 321neo last winter out to Kauai.
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Old 02-12-2025 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by game
I just checked and the 757s are running the thinner routes out to hawai'i right now from LA and Seattle. Why is that? Is it because the 757 holds more people, makes better profit, or has better performance than the 321neos? I rode on an 321neo last winter out to Kauai.
sometimes the NEOs have to make fuel stops with winter winds. Not common, but the 757s can fill up and go without any stops for the most part. Routes are switching back to the NEOs in March.
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Old 02-12-2025 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by smtx123
sometimes the NEOs have to make fuel stops with winter winds. Not common, but the 757s can fill up and go without any stops for the most part. Routes are switching back to the NEOs in March.
Full disclosure, I've never flown either the 757 or the NEO, but why would the NEO be incapable of making the westbound trip to LIH from LAX? It seems well within the aircraft's range. In fact, per Boeing and Airbus website data, the NEO has almost the exact same range as the 757 (almost 1000nm longer than both the 737-800 and 900ER which I believe do those flights for WN and UA if I'm not mistaken). Is it climb performance, or some other limiting factor? Seems the NEO should be able to get it done without any problems.
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Old 02-12-2025 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kangoala
Full disclosure, I've never flown either the 757 or the NEO, but why would the NEO be incapable of making the westbound trip to LIH from LAX? It seems well within the aircraft's range. In fact, per Boeing and Airbus website data, the NEO has almost the exact same range as the 757 (almost 1000nm longer than both the 737-800 and 900ER which I believe do those flights for WN and UA if I'm not mistaken). Is it climb performance, or some other limiting factor? Seems the NEO should be able to get it done without any problems.
The range you are referencing isn't applicable to our 321neos. Delta in their prophetic wisdom, tried to hit the bullseye on efficiency and opted for less auxiliary fuel tanks than Airbus offered (1 of 3).
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Old 02-12-2025 | 12:18 PM
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What are your thoughts on Delta opting in for a few neos with a second ACT installed for these Hawaii and other long routes?
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Old 02-12-2025 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by skitheline
What are your thoughts on Delta opting in for a few neos with a second ACT installed for these Hawaii and other long routes?
Might as well do the XLR. Has some flap and wing tweaks to help heavier weights get off the deck, so you aren't just trading payload for fuel. We have 70 Neo options to go, wouldn't be difficult to make two dozen the XLRs.

Bonus would be using them on longer stuff elsewhere depending on the season. Use them for West coast to Hawaii November to April, then eastern US to Europe in the rest of the year. Yes before someone jumps down my throat on widebodies for TATL, Cargo, etc I get it. Just thinking about getting maximum use out of an asset like that. Easy enough to send them on MSP/DTW/JFK-KEF for the summer seasonal stuff. Gets network some various gauge to work with, and we know they like that. Prob could work on stuff like BOS-EDI/LIS where there's less likely to be cargo, and we can send that stuff on the heavies to JFK just down the road.
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