Why do you think Atlanta has 4 Reps? Rhetorical question by the way. As you know there are two ways votes at the MEC can occur, one of which gives the Atlanta Reps an extraordinary amount of power because of its large size. I’m not saying it’s used very often at all, but it does give them an undue amount of influence. To not realize this is being naive.

Denny

 

Good grief, y’all. Unless the Union reps are voting on new a A350 purchase can you pleaaasseee stop the derail?? Take it to the “Same ‘Ol Tired Union Bullsh1t” thread!

 

So when's the announcement for the 7 350's and 737-900s????

Mongo

 

Excellent question!!!!!

 

Hopefully we get both the 350 and the 787’s!!! We need the lift

 

We as in WE or we as in JV?

 

Just drawing a line in the sand and saying comply with the current agreement then we can talk, is an accomplishment. He tried and was constantly under attack by the appeasement faction of our association. Blaming him, vs an management team that has been use to getting what they want from us. We as a group, tend to think getting a deal, any deal is an accomplishment. Management successfully convinced the old guard they were partners in a business deal. It made them feel special, in the know. As has been said many times, were playing checkers and they're playing high level chess. Especially if there is an increase in hourly rates to the detriment of work rules. Our reroute, scope, trip construction is totally unsatisfactory. I'll add DH, and lack of crew meals too. Look sailing, we're not going to agree and neither will the 51%(sadly usually closer to 63%) who will vote for whatever gives an hourly rate increase. We have a few reps who truly want to make this not only a better place to work, don't mind if wokED likes them or not, but they are outnumbered now and probably always will be here. It is what it is. Guys I fly with ***** about the trips, lack of food, trip construction, etc , but vote for the reps that don't want to rock the boat.

 

I guess you are into rhetoric, I am into results. The 10 years preceding your favorite chairman saw wages nearly double, Delta out hiring every airline worldwide, block hours worked reduced almost 20%, sick leave increased from 56 to 270 hours. I can go on and on with improvements. Then we brought in the tough guys to really get things going and they delivered crickets.

 

Reminds me of raising kids. They liked to @itch and moan about how unfair their life was and how it "sucked". Told 'em if it was that bad, they were welcome to move out. They never took me up on the offer. Some people love to complain....but when the rubber meets the road....honest sentiment/thought prevails. We as adults are not much different than when they/we were kids. It's the nature of the beast.

To not understand this human frailty(bitc@ing) and use it as support for the argument that you and the minority are smarter than the 63% majority is....?????

 

It’s fun to compare results during a decade of prosperity following bankruptcy proceedings vs a contract negotiation that was interrupted by the worst revenue drop off ever seen by the industry.