DL Hiring: New Process
#2822
#2823
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 2
I'll take a stab at a few:
- NYC seems pretty easy to get as a base, how difficult is it to live in Brooklyn and commute to all 3 airports ?
Should be fairly easy. Depending on what fleet you are on can determine which airport you will have to report to the most.
- Can I bid for my initial base as a new joiner ? If yes, can I bid for a fleet in particular ?
Yes, everyone bids for their preferred combinations of base/aircraft based on the selections offer to that specific class.
- if I understand well, year 1 will be Reserve (short or long call), is this correct ? How long before a new joiner based in NYC can hold a line and bid ?
With NYC being so undesirable for most people, it goes very junior. Depending on which fleet you end up on you may not even sit a day of reserve before holding a line. As long as hiring continues at a brisk pace you won't be looking at more than a few months on reserve. Definitely not anywhere close to a year. And living in base bidding reserve can actually allow you greater schedule flexibility and more money making opportunities...
- Time to upgrade is key to me. What is a “reasonable time” for a command upgrade in NYC and what aircraft are available to new upgrades ? Again, new command = reserve ?
Right now people with less than 1 year on property are holding NYC captain spots. While nothing is guaranteed, the trend is likely to hold for another year or two so if it's what you want you should be able to hold captain in NYC fairly quickly. As an extremely junior captain, you are probably looking at a few years of reserve.
- how is the atmosphere in the flight deck, what’s the culture like, atmosphere during layovers ? how is the gradient in the cockpit ?
Every airline has their small percentage of idiots who make life miserable, but they are the exception, not the norm. In my 5 years here I have yet to fly with another crew member who I would not want to fly with again.
- Lastly but not least, the safety culture. How is it, is it fair ? Are crew honest and transparent when messing up and are they afraid or not to write safety reports when needed ? Any hand flying allowed or not ?
I'd say we have a decent safety culture on the pilot side of things. Lots of people make mistakes and it's treated as a learning experience. Two things get you fired from Delta immediately: Lying and stealing. If you don't do those you'll be ok. Now there are some safety things based on fatiguing schedules and such, but I've never gotten push back when I've called in fatigued or delayed a flight for food.
Hand flying is supported and allowed. Other than using some common sense as to when to do it there are no restrictions, other than obvious things like CAT III, etc. People are encouraged to keep their hand-flying skills current.
Thanks for your help.
- NYC seems pretty easy to get as a base, how difficult is it to live in Brooklyn and commute to all 3 airports ?
Should be fairly easy. Depending on what fleet you are on can determine which airport you will have to report to the most.
- Can I bid for my initial base as a new joiner ? If yes, can I bid for a fleet in particular ?
Yes, everyone bids for their preferred combinations of base/aircraft based on the selections offer to that specific class.
- if I understand well, year 1 will be Reserve (short or long call), is this correct ? How long before a new joiner based in NYC can hold a line and bid ?
With NYC being so undesirable for most people, it goes very junior. Depending on which fleet you end up on you may not even sit a day of reserve before holding a line. As long as hiring continues at a brisk pace you won't be looking at more than a few months on reserve. Definitely not anywhere close to a year. And living in base bidding reserve can actually allow you greater schedule flexibility and more money making opportunities...
- Time to upgrade is key to me. What is a “reasonable time” for a command upgrade in NYC and what aircraft are available to new upgrades ? Again, new command = reserve ?
Right now people with less than 1 year on property are holding NYC captain spots. While nothing is guaranteed, the trend is likely to hold for another year or two so if it's what you want you should be able to hold captain in NYC fairly quickly. As an extremely junior captain, you are probably looking at a few years of reserve.
- how is the atmosphere in the flight deck, what’s the culture like, atmosphere during layovers ? how is the gradient in the cockpit ?
Every airline has their small percentage of idiots who make life miserable, but they are the exception, not the norm. In my 5 years here I have yet to fly with another crew member who I would not want to fly with again.
- Lastly but not least, the safety culture. How is it, is it fair ? Are crew honest and transparent when messing up and are they afraid or not to write safety reports when needed ? Any hand flying allowed or not ?
I'd say we have a decent safety culture on the pilot side of things. Lots of people make mistakes and it's treated as a learning experience. Two things get you fired from Delta immediately: Lying and stealing. If you don't do those you'll be ok. Now there are some safety things based on fatiguing schedules and such, but I've never gotten push back when I've called in fatigued or delayed a flight for food.
Hand flying is supported and allowed. Other than using some common sense as to when to do it there are no restrictions, other than obvious things like CAT III, etc. People are encouraged to keep their hand-flying skills current.
Thanks for your help.
When you say a few years on reserve as a new captain, can you pick up trips in advance when some are available or will you only get a duty assigned if called during your reserve ?
#2824
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,552
They start covering the next day’s trips after 8 AM. So if you see what’s out there in open time you can put in preferences for which trips you want. Generally you can only get trips that match your number of available reserve days, unless they are just out of reserves. So if you have 4 days of reserve don’t expect to be able to get a 2 day trip. Within the list of pilots on the same days of availability the trip preference requests (we call them yellow slips) will go in seniority order.
#2826
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 159
#2827
#2828
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,236
I’d say from poking around 320 and 737 B’s system wide it has been impossible all year. Maybe a few bases had a rare blue day here and there but I’m guessing not many. I heard A’s can have blue days before the 20th. No clue on the other fleets.
#2829
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 73
Hello everyone,
Assessment received today, I suck at taking test in general. Any advise on preparing for the assessment? I have 7 days to complete it. My separation date is not till later next year. For everyone here who is fortunate to received a CJO, how long is it good for? and can you defer a class date for later one or would that disqualify and have to go thru the process again. Thank you in advance.
Assessment received today, I suck at taking test in general. Any advise on preparing for the assessment? I have 7 days to complete it. My separation date is not till later next year. For everyone here who is fortunate to received a CJO, how long is it good for? and can you defer a class date for later one or would that disqualify and have to go thru the process again. Thank you in advance.
#2830
Gets Holidays Off
Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 357
Hello everyone,
Assessment received today, I suck at taking test in general. Any advise on preparing for the assessment? I have 7 days to complete it. My separation date is not till later next year. For everyone here who is fortunate to received a CJO, how long is it good for? and can you defer a class date for later one or would that disqualify and have to go thru the process again. Thank you in advance.
Assessment received today, I suck at taking test in general. Any advise on preparing for the assessment? I have 7 days to complete it. My separation date is not till later next year. For everyone here who is fortunate to received a CJO, how long is it good for? and can you defer a class date for later one or would that disqualify and have to go thru the process again. Thank you in advance.
From post #1616:
That's the one I did and steer everyone towards. Here's the sections from post 91. Can't practice the comm one at this site. I just recommend turning the volume up and write it down. That's the only task you can use a pen and paper. Plus you can practice each section before the rea test.
"8 sections
Spatial orientation (ndb/rmi in relation to aircraft-its timed for 3 mins)
Reaction speed (click when two shapes match each other)
Deductive logical thinking (sudoku style—which shape should be in which position on the grid)
Monitoring ability(how many dots are moving around in a circle)
Multi-tasking capability (3 tasks at once—-adding/subtracting, determining if shapes are duplicated in a row of other shapes, and a slider like the game asteroids where you avoid objects to prevent a crash)
Auditory comprehension (audio clips of clearance read backs or approach clearances and you have to choose the correct answer from 3 multiple choice options)
Complex control (use your mouse to guide your plane through a series of rotating circles)
Work-related behavior(standard personality test)"
Best of luck!
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